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Why is there no pictures on google of this route? its a bit suspicious. and who runs it??
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On Monday, 18 September 2017 08:25:51 UTC+1, Hammersmith And City Line wrote:
Why is there no pictures on google of this route? its a bit suspicious. and who runs it?? With that number it must be a school bus. Those buses normally only run once a day in each direction, so the opportunity to photgraph them must be limited. |
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In message , at 11:44:59 on
Mon, 18 Sep 2017, remarked: Yes was being discussed on the local,the radio as I typed . I think it is the result of various BBC Inside Out programmes having them as a subject this evening. Sadly, trailers for later programmes is now what passes for "news" much of the time on BBC Breakfast. -- Roland Perry |
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"District Line" wrote in message ... Well there is one picture. https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8051/8...d9fd0abf_b.jpg OMG there are three young children in the picture Pixilate them out immediately tim |
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:48:45 +0100, "tim..."
wrote: "District Line" wrote in message ... Well there is one picture. https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8051/8...d9fd0abf_b.jpg OMG there are three young children in the picture Pixilate them out immediately It's curious that there's only three: I thought kids were magnetically attracted to the front and back seats of buses. |
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On Monday, 18 September 2017 14:31:51 UTC+1, Recliner wrote:
It's curious that there's only three: I thought kids were magnetically attracted to the front and back seats of buses. In my experience kids HATE school buses, and wait for the next available standard bus. DRIVERS hate schoolkids and will do ANYTHING to be very early or very late for the route. My local bus is the 655. I holds about 100 but it is normally about half full. I think I use the 655 more often than the school children. |
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT), Offramp
wrote: I think I use the 655 more often than the school children. So non-school people can use school buses in London? -- jhk |
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 19:57:45 +0200, Jarle Hammen Knudsen
wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT), Offramp wrote: I think I use the 655 more often than the school children. So non-school people can use school buses in London? From the picture, it's not actually a school bus as such, just an ordinary double-decker bus deployed to a route aimed mainly at school kids. |
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In message , at 19:57:45 on
Mon, 18 Sep 2017, Jarle Hammen Knudsen remarked: I think I use the 655 more often than the school children. So non-school people can use school buses in London? If a bus has a "number" from the local fare stage operator, I don't see why not. On the other hand, outside London they are often privately run by other companies, with specific termly season tickets. -- Roland Perry |
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On 2017-09-19 06:31:59 +0000, Roland Perry said:
If a bus has a "number" from the local fare stage operator, I don't see why not. On the other hand, outside London they are often privately run by other companies, with specific termly season tickets. They are usually open to the public so BSOG can be claimed (typically a cash fare is paid by a member of the public using one). Whether the public would want to go within 100 miles of them is quite another question. Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the @ to reply. |
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On Monday, 18 September 2017 08:25:51 UTC+1, Hammersmith And City Line wrote:
Why is there no pictures on google of this route? its a bit suspicious. and who runs it?? Not again. You must be the same person who commented on my Flickr account about this route. I have at least 2 photos of the route in service when it was run by CT Plus. There is nothing suspicious about the route. The route is now run by London General and uses the same bus and driver each day - I've seen it several times and even used it once as it came along to a stop first. There are no issues with photographing school services in London. I have many photos of school buses taken without any great issue other than a cheeky remark from a school kid in Kingsbury and he was wrong in what he said. Now perhaps you can stop the paranoia and ridiculous queries about the 675 bus? Paul C -- via Google |
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On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 10:20:12 UTC+1, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Monday, 18 September 2017 08:25:51 UTC+1, Hammersmith And City Line wrote: Why is there no pictures on google of this route? its a bit suspicious. and who runs it?? Not again. .... What was the story?? Fill us in! FILL US IN!! |
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Recliner wrote:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 19:57:45 +0200, Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT), Offramp wrote: I think I use the 655 more often than the school children. So non-school people can use school buses in London? From the picture, it's not actually a school bus as such, just an ordinary double-decker bus deployed to a route aimed mainly at school kids. hich is what a school bus is in London (and I think UK) We don't have the silly waste of separate school buses that the US have. Although that does mean that some of ours are not very good buses. -- Mark |
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:08:51 +0100
(Mark Bestley) wrote: Recliner wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 19:57:45 +0200, Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT), Offramp wrote: I think I use the 655 more often than the school children. So non-school people can use school buses in London? From the picture, it's not actually a school bus as such, just an ordinary double-decker bus deployed to a route aimed mainly at school kids. hich is what a school bus is in London (and I think UK) We don't have the silly waste of separate school buses that the US have. Although that does mean that some of ours are not very good buses. Those US school buses look like they were designed in the 1940s to me. Is there some reason they can't use a modern bus but have to use some archaic throwbacks? |
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:08:51 +0100 (Mark Bestley) wrote: Recliner wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 19:57:45 +0200, Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT), Offramp wrote: I think I use the 655 more often than the school children. So non-school people can use school buses in London? From the picture, it's not actually a school bus as such, just an ordinary double-decker bus deployed to a route aimed mainly at school kids. hich is what a school bus is in London (and I think UK) We don't have the silly waste of separate school buses that the US have. Although that does mean that some of ours are not very good buses. Those US school buses look like they were designed in the 1940s to me. Is there some reason they can't use a modern bus but have to use some archaic throwbacks? They also have more modern ones, but I suppose the old ones last for a very long time. They don't do a high mileage, after all. |
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On 19/09/2017 13:45, Recliner wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:08:51 +0100 (Mark Bestley) wrote: Recliner wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 19:57:45 +0200, Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT), Offramp wrote: I think I use the 655 more often than the school children. So non-school people can use school buses in London? From the picture, it's not actually a school bus as such, just an ordinary double-decker bus deployed to a route aimed mainly at school kids. hich is what a school bus is in London (and I think UK) We don't have the silly waste of separate school buses that the US have. Although that does mean that some of ours are not very good buses. Those US school buses look like they were designed in the 1940s to me. Is there some reason they can't use a modern bus but have to use some archaic throwbacks? They also have more modern ones, but I suppose the old ones last for a very long time. They don't do a high mileage, after all. Well they seem to keep replacing them with similar models - older ones seem to end up as low-cost transport in central American countries such as Guatemala. |
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:08:51 +0100, Mark Bestley wrote:
Recliner wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 19:57:45 +0200, Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT), Offramp wrote: I think I use the 655 more often than the school children. So non-school people can use school buses in London? From the picture, it's not actually a school bus as such, just an ordinary double-decker bus deployed to a route aimed mainly at school kids. hich is what a school bus is in London (and I think UK) Apart from where they aren't. There are several school bus services around me (in North London) which use coaches. |
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On 19/09/2017 14:36, David Walters wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:08:51 +0100, Mark Bestley wrote: Recliner wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 19:57:45 +0200, Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT), Offramp wrote: I think I use the 655 more often than the school children. So non-school people can use school buses in London? From the picture, it's not actually a school bus as such, just an ordinary double-decker bus deployed to a route aimed mainly at school kids. hich is what a school bus is in London (and I think UK) Apart from where they aren't. There are several school bus services around me (in North London) which use coaches. I think that just serves to reinforce the point that "school bus" does not have anything like as precise meaning (and iconic status) as it has in the USA. And I find that very easy to understand given the way the US school bus was so widespread - IIRC available for any child more than a mile from school, even in cities. And from my list of useless things I remember, John Prescott (when in Government) sponsored a pilot in England of a US-style service - with yellow buses imported from the USA. -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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Tue, 19 Sep 2017, Mark Bestley remarked: From the picture, it's not actually a school bus as such, just an ordinary double-decker bus deployed to a route aimed mainly at school kids. hich is what a school bus is in London (and I think UK) We don't have the silly waste of separate school buses that the US have. Having a dedicated fleet of USA school buses is the only way to provide the transport, because stage buses are very scarce. And don't make the mistake of thinking they do only one return trip a day - where I lived in the USA for a year the school buses did three morning trips and three afternoon ones, and the school hours were staggered to account for that - different times for Elementary, Middle and High Schools. In somewhat similar conditions out in the English countryside, school buses tend to be private hire rent-a-wrecks which either spend the rest of the day ferrying crop-pickers around, or simply sit at the depot (well, the back of some farmyard which passes for a depot). In slightly more urban areas they might be pressed into service doing once-a-day OAP trips to the out-of-town supermarkets. -- Roland Perry |
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In message , at 12:28:48 on Tue, 19 Sep
2017, remarked: Those US school buses look like they were designed in the 1940s to me. Is there some reason they can't use a modern bus but have to use some archaic throwbacks? They are robust and reliable. Why is anything more luxurious required? -- Roland Perry |
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In message , at 09:19:36 on Tue, 19
Sep 2017, Neil Williams remarked: If a bus has a "number" from the local fare stage operator, I don't see why not. On the other hand, outside London they are often privately run by other companies, with specific termly season tickets. They are usually open to the public so BSOG can be claimed (typically a cash fare is paid by a member of the public using one). Whether the public would want to go within 100 miles of them is quite another question. Do you mean the red London ones, or outside London. Having looked at numerous of the latter earlier, they are all "pupils with season tickets only". -- Roland Perry |
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 19:57:45 +0200, Jarle Hammen Knudsen
wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT), Offramp wrote: I think I use the 655 more often than the school children. So non-school people can use school buses in London? When we lived in Berkshire my sons went to school on a private charter. Here in Somerset I think all the local secondary schools run school buses which are usually (but not exclusively) hand me down coaches provided by local coach companies and most don't appear in public timetables. There is one route from a sixth form college which does appear in the timetable and I phoned the operator once to ask if it was open to use by non-pupils (by the time I wanted to get on it would have dropped at least part of the load) and the person I talked to didn't really know but guessed (!) I'd be OK. In the end I used a different mode so I never found out! The simple, but probably unsatisfactory, answer is "it varies". There is no hard and fast rule. |
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:08:51 +0100, (Mark Bestley)
wrote: Recliner wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 19:57:45 +0200, Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT), Offramp wrote: I think I use the 655 more often than the school children. So non-school people can use school buses in London? From the picture, it's not actually a school bus as such, just an ordinary double-decker bus deployed to a route aimed mainly at school kids. hich is what a school bus is in London (and I think UK) We don't have the silly waste of separate school buses that the US have. Although that does mean that some of ours are not very good buses. Nobody seems to have mentioned the main reason for the yellow US school bus - it has protected status on the road. It is illegal to pass it when it stops, not just on your side of the road but on the other side too. As far as I know, the rule does not apply to the other carriage way of a divided highway (to use the US terminology). I have driven many thousands of miles in the USA and have never seen anyone defy that rule.. Its unfortunate spin off is that children adopt an arrogant saunter across the road and do not learn respect for traffic.. Guy Gorton |
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In message , at 17:42:38 on
Tue, 19 Sep 2017, Guy Gorton remarked: I think I use the 655 more often than the school children. So non-school people can use school buses in London? From the picture, it's not actually a school bus as such, just an ordinary double-decker bus deployed to a route aimed mainly at school kids. hich is what a school bus is in London (and I think UK) We don't have the silly waste of separate school buses that the US have. Although that does mean that some of ours are not very good buses. Nobody seems to have mentioned the main reason for the yellow US school bus - it has protected status on the road. It is illegal to pass it when it stops, I think that's "pass it when it has its 'Stop' sign out". Some local jurisdictions might have "pass one ever, at all". not just on your side of the road but on the other side too. As far as I know, the rule does not apply to the other carriage way of a divided highway (to use the US terminology). I have driven many thousands of miles in the USA and have never seen anyone defy that rule.. Its unfortunate spin off is that children adopt an arrogant saunter across the road and do not learn respect for traffic.. Some of them are driven like Fire Trucks too - "I believe I have absolute priority, so get the f*ck out of my way". Especially when exiting blind from school premises. -- Roland Perry |
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On 2017-09-19 17:45:00 +0000, Roland Perry said:
That doesn't answer the question about whether the Big Green Bus Company will take stage fares (rather than student seasons) on whatever school runs they do before starting the 114 Cambridge to Addenbrookes service[1] mid-morning. [1] Is that really in need of subsidy? Have a look through Notices and Proceedings to see if it is registered. If it is, as it indeed probably is, they legally have to, as otherwise they are fraudulently claiming BSOG and should be reported. Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the @ to reply. |
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On 2017-09-19 16:27:05 +0000, Roland Perry said:
Do you mean the red London ones, or outside London. Outside London is my main experience. All the MK ones are stage carriage services which you can, if you wish, use yourself. Though I don't think many people do, because they aren't really convenient, and who wants to share their journey to work with a load of loud schoolkids anyway? Having looked at numerous of the latter earlier, they are all "pupils with season tickets only". Some are like that, but BSOG cannot be claimed, so they are more costly to operate, having to pay fuel tax in full. Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the @ to reply. |
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In message , at 20:28:08 on Tue, 19
Sep 2017, Neil Williams remarked: Having looked at numerous of the latter earlier, they are all "pupils with season tickets only". Some are like that, but BSOG cannot be claimed, so they are more costly to operate, having to pay fuel tax in full. I can believe they don't claim, given the high cost of many such student seasons - which despite a guaranteed monthly income from a full load can easily be in the region of a fiver per kid per day. -- Roland Perry |
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 12:45:07 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote: wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:08:51 +0100 (Mark Bestley) wrote: Recliner wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 19:57:45 +0200, Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT), Offramp wrote: I think I use the 655 more often than the school children. So non-school people can use school buses in London? From the picture, it's not actually a school bus as such, just an ordinary double-decker bus deployed to a route aimed mainly at school kids. hich is what a school bus is in London (and I think UK) We don't have the silly waste of separate school buses that the US have. Although that does mean that some of ours are not very good buses. Those US school buses look like they were designed in the 1940s to me. Is there some reason they can't use a modern bus but have to use some archaic throwbacks? They also have more modern ones, but still utilitarian. I doubt any commuter in the Excited States or Canada would appreciate having to board a 'school bus' to move from point A to point B. The first problem is one-door entry/exit, which works fine as you pick up/drop off the Dear Wee Kiddies and Stroppy Teens to/from their school but falls flat for variable route coverage. Second, I've yet to see a 'school bus' which is handicapped accessible. Third, their physical 'ride' is hellishly hard/rough; they're basically trucks with closed-in bodies. Having said that, a pile of discarded 'school buses' seem to migrate to Latin America. Pay Bolivia a visit and look around while in La Paz to observe what passes as public transport. |
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"Roland Perry" wrote They are usually open to the public so BSOG can be claimed (typically a cash fare is paid by a member of the public using one). Whether the public would want to go within 100 miles of them is quite another question. Do you mean the red London ones, or outside London. Having looked at numerous of the latter earlier, they are all "pupils with season tickets only". Nope, Surrey do it both ways and of course accept ENCTS passes https://www.surreycc.gov.uk/schools-...-serve-schools The list does not include coach and taxi services provided by Surrey County Council, as they are not available to the general public. == https://www.surreycc.gov.uk/roads-an...timetables#635 https://www.surreycc.gov.uk/roads-an...timetables#678 -- Mike D |
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On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 17:27:10 UTC+1, Roland Perry wrote:
In somewhat similar conditions out in the English countryside, school buses tend to be private hire rent-a-wrecks... This made me think of Terry-Thomas's coach company in Blue Murder at St Trinian's. |
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Sep 2017, Michael R N Dolbear remarked: "Roland Perry" wrote They are usually open to the public so BSOG can be claimed (typically a cash fare is paid by a member of the public using one). Whether the public would want to go within 100 miles of them is quite another question. Do you mean the red London ones, or outside London. Having looked at numerous of the latter earlier, they are all "pupils with season tickets only". Nope, Surrey do it both ways and of course accept ENCTS passes https://www.surreycc.gov.uk/schools-...chool-transpor t/local-bus-services-which-serve-schools That's the opposite of what we've been taking about - regular stage buses which just happen to have schools on their route. The list does not include coach and taxi services provided by Surrey County Council, as they are not available to the general public. And those are the ones we *are* talking about. -- Roland Perry |
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 17:25:09 +0100
Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 12:28:48 on Tue, 19 Sep 2017, remarked: Those US school buses look like they were designed in the 1940s to me. Is there some reason they can't use a modern bus but have to use some archaic throwbacks? They are robust and reliable. Why is anything more luxurious required? So is a horse and cart. Also I'd be amazed if their crash worthiness and fuel economy is as good as a normal bus. |
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 17:25:09 +0100 Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 12:28:48 on Tue, 19 Sep 2017, remarked: Those US school buses look like they were designed in the 1940s to me. Is there some reason they can't use a modern bus but have to use some archaic throwbacks? They are robust and reliable. Why is anything more luxurious required? So is a horse and cart. Also I'd be amazed if their crash worthiness and fuel economy is as good as a normal bus. Are the kids required to wear seat belts on them? If not, the bus crashworthiness hardly matters. |
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