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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6RWMaAtTOY

The tunnels have TWICE the cross section area of existing tube tunnels,
to allow a walkway!

It looks like the public can get into a raised viewing platform over the
Battersea Power Station Station.

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On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 08:01:47 UTC+1, Basil Jet wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6RWMaAtTOY

The tunnels have TWICE the cross section area of existing tube tunnels,
to allow a walkway!


Great idea! Walking along tracks is bloody awful. If there is an evac then a walkway will speed things up enormously. Same with getting mechanics to problem scenes.

It looks like the public can get into a raised viewing platform over the
Battersea Power Station Station.


He mentioned a possible future extension to Clapham Jct!
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Basil Jet wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6RWMaAtTOY

The tunnels have TWICE the cross section area of existing tube tunnels,
to allow a walkway!


Interesting. Of course, the DLR bored tunnels are similar. I wonder if the
Crossrail tunnels are also wide enough for a walkway, alongside the
mainline-size trains?

The larger tunnel will also reduce wind resistance and tunnel heating.


It looks like the public can get into a raised viewing platform over the
Battersea Power Station Station.


It would be nice if it's open to the public, but I suspect it isn't.

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On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 08:01:47 UTC+1, Basil Jet wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6RWMaAtTOY

The tunnels have TWICE the cross section area of existing tube tunnels,
to allow a walkway!


Great idea! Walking along tracks is bloody awful. If there is an evac
then a walkway will speed things up enormously. Same with getting
mechanics to problem scenes.

It looks like the public can get into a raised viewing platform over the
Battersea Power Station Station.


He mentioned a possible future extension to Clapham Jct!


I think there was always going to be passive provision for such an
extension, simply by having the terminus tunnels point the right way, but
with no current plan (or funding) to go any further.

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On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 09:44:33 -0000 (UTC)
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Offramp wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 08:01:47 UTC+1, Basil Jet wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6RWMaAtTOY

The tunnels have TWICE the cross section area of existing tube tunnels,
to allow a walkway!


Great idea! Walking along tracks is bloody awful. If there is an evac
then a walkway will speed things up enormously. Same with getting
mechanics to problem scenes.

It looks like the public can get into a raised viewing platform over the
Battersea Power Station Station.


He mentioned a possible future extension to Clapham Jct!


I think there was always going to be passive provision for such an
extension, simply by having the terminus tunnels point the right way, but
with no current plan (or funding) to go any further.


Can't see it happening. There's no way the northern would cope with the
shear number of passengers who would use it from there.

While its nice to see crossrail and this extension, it would be even better if
the government would spend even a fraction of the cost of these on improving
public transport in the northern cities.



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On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 09:44:33 -0000 (UTC)
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Offramp wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 08:01:47 UTC+1, Basil Jet wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6RWMaAtTOY

The tunnels have TWICE the cross section area of existing tube tunnels,
to allow a walkway!

Great idea! Walking along tracks is bloody awful. If there is an evac
then a walkway will speed things up enormously. Same with getting
mechanics to problem scenes.

It looks like the public can get into a raised viewing platform over the
Battersea Power Station Station.

He mentioned a possible future extension to Clapham Jct!


I think there was always going to be passive provision for such an
extension, simply by having the terminus tunnels point the right way, but
with no current plan (or funding) to go any further.


Can't see it happening. There's no way the northern would cope with the
shear number of passengers who would use it from there.


Yes, I agree.


While its nice to see crossrail and this extension, it would be even better if
the government would spend even a fraction of the cost of these on improving
public transport in the northern cities.


This extension was largely funded by the local property developers, not the
government. Similarly, a large part of the Crossrail 2 funding will have to
come from London itself, either from property levies or direct
contributions from property developers.



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On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 10:29:47 -0000 (UTC)
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While its nice to see crossrail and this extension, it would be even better

if
the government would spend even a fraction of the cost of these on improving
public transport in the northern cities.


This extension was largely funded by the local property developers, not the
government. Similarly, a large part of the Crossrail 2 funding will have to
come from London itself, either from property levies or direct
contributions from property developers.


All offset against earnings for tax reasons naturally.

Still, no reason that sort of scheme couldn't be used at least in part oop
narth. Manchester is pretty much the UKs 2nd city now economically if not
in population (sorry brum) and a bit more cash splashed that way could only be
a good thing.

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On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 10:29:47 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
While its nice to see crossrail and this extension, it would be even better

if
the government would spend even a fraction of the cost of these on improving
public transport in the northern cities.


This extension was largely funded by the local property developers, not the
government. Similarly, a large part of the Crossrail 2 funding will have to
come from London itself, either from property levies or direct
contributions from property developers.


All offset against earnings for tax reasons naturally.

Still, no reason that sort of scheme couldn't be used at least in part oop
narth. Manchester is pretty much the UKs 2nd city now economically if not
in population (sorry brum) and a bit more cash splashed that way could only be
a good thing.


The Ordsall Chord is now almost complete so, at last, Piccadilly and
Victoria stations will have a direct heavy rail link.

https://www.networkrail.co.uk/runnin...ordsall-chord/

And, yes, before anyone says it, it's a pity that it came at the expense of
the MoSI link to the rail network.

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On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 08:01:47 UTC+1, Basil Jet wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6RWMaAtTOY

The tunnels have TWICE the cross section area of existing tube
tunnels, to allow a walkway!


Great idea! Walking along tracks is bloody awful. If there is an evac
then a walkway will speed things up enormously. Same with getting
mechanics to problem scenes.


Isn't it a requirement for all new tunnels to have an evacuation route for
walking and wheelchairs?

It looks like the public can get into a raised viewing platform
over the Battersea Power Station Station.


He mentioned a possible future extension to Clapham Jct!


That would make sense if Crossrail 2 goes ahead.

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In message , at 10:56:30 on Wed, 27 Sep
2017, remarked:

Manchester is pretty much the UKs 2nd city now economically if not
in population (sorry brum) and a bit more cash splashed that way could only be
a good thing.


More than the cash splashed that way which currently subsidises their
trains at 35p per passenger mile?
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