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Default Drivers refuse to serve GN&C tunnel to Moorgate due to dust levels

On 2017\11\07 06:13, Recliner wrote:

Incidentally, TfL (LO or LU)would probably do a better job of looking after
the Moorgate tunnels:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pollution-masks-for-train-staff-after-health-concerns-tunnel-runs-past-arsenal-stadium-to-moorgate-station-govia-thameslink-railway-l65gsbkwg?shareToken=13286e9c0815a38ffebe6e572a6c4 734


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Default Drivers refuse to serve GN&C tunnel to Moorgate due to dust levels

On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 14:49:43 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\11\07 06:13, Recliner wrote:

Incidentally, TfL (LO or LU)would probably do a better job of looking after
the Moorgate tunnels:


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...ff-after-healt
-concerns-tunnel-runs-past-arsenal-stadium-to-moorgate-station-govia-thameslink
railway-l65gsbkwg?shareToken=13286e9c0815a38ffebe6e572a6c4 734

This needs its own thread!


The haze that can be seen in tunnels via train headlights on many tube lines
would probably be called a serious smog incident if it was above ground.
I'm pretty sure that mixture of brake dust and general ****e cannot be good
for the lungs.

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Default Drivers refuse to serve GN&C tunnel to Moorgate due to dust levels

On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 15:00:04 +0000 (UTC), wrote:

On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 14:49:43 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\11\07 06:13, Recliner wrote:

Incidentally, TfL (LO or LU)would probably do a better job of looking after
the Moorgate tunnels:


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...ff-after-healt
-concerns-tunnel-runs-past-arsenal-stadium-to-moorgate-station-govia-thameslink
railway-l65gsbkwg?shareToken=13286e9c0815a38ffebe6e572a6c4 734

This needs its own thread!


The haze that can be seen in tunnels via train headlights on many tube lines
would probably be called a serious smog incident if it was above ground.
I'm pretty sure that mixture of brake dust and general ****e cannot be good
for the lungs.


Do theystill run the tunnel cleaning train and if so how often? Is
the haze worse than when the cleaning was done manually?
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Default Drivers refuse to serve GN&C tunnel to Moorgate due to dustlevels

On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 14:49:43 +0000, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\11\07 06:13, Recliner wrote:

Incidentally, TfL (LO or LU)would probably do a better job of looking after
the Moorgate tunnels:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pollution-masks-for-train-staff-after-health-concerns-tunnel-runs-past-arsenal-stadium-to-moorgate-station-govia-thameslink-railway-l65gsbkwg?shareToken=13286e9c0815a38ffebe6e572a6c4 734


This needs its own thread!


Interesting. That explains why the platform staff at Moorgate have been
wearing masks for the last month or so.

Most of Moorgate is getting a Crossrail connecting spruce up while the
Great Northern platforms are as abandoned as ever with the never changing
adverts and tiles falling off the walls.
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Default Drivers refuse to serve GN&C tunnel to Moorgate due to dust levels

In article ,
(Graham Harrison) wrote:

On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 15:00:04 +0000 (UTC),
wrote:

On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 14:49:43 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\11\07 06:13, Recliner wrote:

Incidentally, TfL (LO or LU)would probably do a better job of looking
after the Moorgate tunnels:


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...n-staff-after-

healt-concerns-tunnel-runs-past-arsenal-stadium-to-moorgate-station-govia-tha
meslink-railway-l65gsbkwg?shareToken=13286e9c0815a38ffebe6e572a6c4 734

This needs its own thread!


The haze that can be seen in tunnels via train headlights on many tube
lines would probably be called a serious smog incident if it was above
ground. I'm pretty sure that mixture of brake dust and general ****e
cannot be good for the lungs.


Do they still run the tunnel cleaning train and if so how often? Is
the haze worse than when the cleaning was done manually?


The tunnel cleaning train never did the GNCR.

--
Colin Rosenstiel


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Default Drivers refuse to serve GN&C tunnel to Moorgate due to dust

On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 17:15:03 +0000
David Walters wrote:
On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 14:49:43 +0000, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\11\07 06:13, Recliner wrote:

Incidentally, TfL (LO or LU)would probably do a better job of looking after
the Moorgate tunnels:


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...ff-after-healt
-concerns-tunnel-runs-past-arsenal-stadium-to-moorgate-station-govia-thameslink
railway-l65gsbkwg?shareToken=13286e9c0815a38ffebe6e572a6c4 734

This needs its own thread!


Interesting. That explains why the platform staff at Moorgate have been
wearing masks for the last month or so.

Most of Moorgate is getting a Crossrail connecting spruce up while the
Great Northern platforms are as abandoned as ever with the never changing
adverts and tiles falling off the walls.


The indifference the moorgate line is treated with baffles me given that its
packed to the gunwales in the rush hours. I wouldn't be surprised if more
people travel to old street and moorgate on GN than to KX.

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Default Drivers refuse to serve GN&C tunnel to Moorgate due to dust levels

On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 15:00:07 UTC, wrote:
On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 14:49:43 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\11\07 06:13, Recliner wrote:

Incidentally, TfL (LO or LU)would probably do a better job of looking after
the Moorgate tunnels:


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...ff-after-healt
-concerns-tunnel-runs-past-arsenal-stadium-to-moorgate-station-govia-thameslink
railway-l65gsbkwg?shareToken=13286e9c0815a38ffebe6e572a6c4 734

This needs its own thread!


The haze that can be seen in tunnels via train headlights on many tube lines
would probably be called a serious smog incident if it was above ground.
I'm pretty sure that mixture of brake dust and general ****e cannot be good
for the lungs.


That's the same type of haze you can see at Camden Tube. Apparently 80% of it is bacteria laden human skin. Probably also there's a fair mix of brake dust and asbestos.

But why does the Victoria line smell so much of dust whereas such as the Bakerloo or Northern doesn't?

But if you really want dust then punch the soft seats on the Bakerloo line.

CJB
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Default Drivers refuse to serve GN&C tunnel to Moorgate due todust levels

CJB wrote:
On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 15:00:07 UTC, wrote:
On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 14:49:43 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\11\07 06:13, Recliner wrote:

Incidentally, TfL (LO or LU)would probably do a better job of looking after
the Moorgate tunnels:


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...ff-after-healt
-concerns-tunnel-runs-past-arsenal-stadium-to-moorgate-station-govia-thameslink
railway-l65gsbkwg?shareToken=13286e9c0815a38ffebe6e572a6c4 734

This needs its own thread!


The haze that can be seen in tunnels via train headlights on many tube lines
would probably be called a serious smog incident if it was above ground.
I'm pretty sure that mixture of brake dust and general ****e cannot be good
for the lungs.


That's the same type of haze you can see at Camden Tube. Apparently 80%
of it is bacteria laden human skin. Probably also there's a fair mix of
brake dust and asbestos.


Not asbestos. Iron and brake pad dust, plus human skin detritus as you say.


But why does the Victoria line smell so much of dust whereas such as the
Bakerloo or Northern doesn't?


Probably because the Vic is entirely underground, and so the trains can't
pump the dirty air out at the portals.



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