On 14/01/2018 20:35, Recliner wrote:
Richard J. wrote:
Robin wrote on 14 Jan 2018 at 17:40 ...
On 14/01/2018 16:58, DRH wrote:

I travelled on about seven buses yesterday and every one had started
moving before the announcement chimed in. Maybe it needs to come before the
route/destination announcement, not after.

Which would mean people who have got on the wrong bus are much less
likely to be able to get off before the next stop?

Serve them right. We don't want the bus held up at every stop in case
someone's got the wrong route.

According to the BBC "The alert is currently triggered by a computer that
sends out the message after the average amount of time a bus would spend
at a bus stop." That's crazy, because it means that half the messages
will be given too late. The only sensible way to time the message is to
link it to the closing of the front door. But there isn't really time to
get this 9-word message completed before the driver starts to move the
bus. Perhaps the message should be shortened to the conductors' cry of
"Hold tight" in the old days, as in "Hold tight" ding-ding!


The front doors don't open at every stop. Nor do the rear doors. But if
the front doors didn't open, presumably nobody boarded, and the annoying
announcement won't need to be played.

What about playing it when the bus was at a bus stop (GPS? or any of
the doors operatiing) and then the indicator was put on by the driver?

"Robin" wrote in message
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On 14/01/2018 16:58, DRH wrote:

I travelled on about seven buses yesterday and every one had started moving
before the announcement chimed in. Maybe it needs to come before the route/destination
announcement, not after.

Which would mean people who have got on the wrong bus

What wrong bus ? On the very infrequent ocasions I use buses
the bus I use is the only bus on that particular route for around
80% of the distance. And only ever terminate at one destination
at either end.

In any case the announcements are only made in English
which is hardly a help to the tourists for whom presumably
such announcemennts would be of most use. Same as
on the underground.

But then again because TfL "can" do something at little or no
extra cost which "may" "enhance the travelling experience
of say 0.5% of their "customers" - in this case amnesiacs
subject to panic attacks then its odds-on they "will" do it.

Judging by my limited experience at least, standards of driving on buses
vary greatly but I'm not sure whether or not these have deteriorated
down the years. There still seem to be a minority of drivers capable of
anticipating hazards and not being solely reliant on their brakes
even in busy enironments but whether such skills are rewarded
in any way i don't know.


michael adams

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On 14/01/2018 19:26, michael adams wrote:
"Robin" wrote in message
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On 14/01/2018 16:58, DRH wrote:

I travelled on about seven buses yesterday and every one had started moving
before the announcement chimed in. Maybe it needs to come before the route/destination
announcement, not after.

Which would mean people who have got on the wrong bus

What wrong bus ? On the very infrequent ocasions I use buses
the bus I use is the only bus on that particular route for around
80% of the distance. And only ever terminate at one destination
at either end.

Try inner London. In the past week alone I have been on 3 buses where
people were either on the wrong bus or in the wrong direction. From
stops with an average of 3 routes with very different destinations.

But I would support the gathering of statistically significant data on
such things to allow a rational decision.


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Robin
reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

This announcement is no more.

Offramp wrote:
This announcement is no more.


It quietly disappeared long ago. It was just a short trial/