On 16/03/2018 13:26, wrote:
In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

Clive Page wrote on 16 Mar 2018 at 11:45 ...
On 16/03/2018 10:13, Someone Somewhere wrote:


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tran...to-match-tube-
prices-but-heathrow-passengers-set-to-pay-premium-a3791496.html

Excessive premiumm to LHR from Z1 - £7.20,Â* from Z2 only £4.50,
otherwise normal fares.

An important question I can't see an answer to is: does a zone 1-6
travelcard cover travel on the Elizabeth Line as far as Heathrow?

Yes it does. Also Freedom Passes.

https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/pr...or-of-london-a
nnounces-tfl-fares-will-apply-to-elizabeth-line

Or, to be precise, no.

It does NOT say that a zone 1-6 travelcard will cover travel on the
Elizabeth Line as far as Heathrow. It's well written as smoke and mirrors
but it offers no prices to Heathrow using travelcards, nor can I see any
reference to Freedom Passes. So what those of us outside London who would
expect to buy a day travelcard and not use Oyster are supposed to do is
entirely unstated.

Errr what does "with travelcards that cover Zone 6 able to be used on
services to Heathrow." mean then?

On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 13:49:26 +0000, Someone Somewhere
wrote:

On 16/03/2018 13:26, wrote:
In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

Clive Page wrote on 16 Mar 2018 at 11:45 ...
On 16/03/2018 10:13, Someone Somewhere wrote:


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tran...to-match-tube-
prices-but-heathrow-passengers-set-to-pay-premium-a3791496.html

Excessive premiumm to LHR from Z1 - £7.20,* from Z2 only £4.50,
otherwise normal fares.

An important question I can't see an answer to is: does a zone 1-6
travelcard cover travel on the Elizabeth Line as far as Heathrow?

Yes it does. Also Freedom Passes.

https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/pr...or-of-london-a
nnounces-tfl-fares-will-apply-to-elizabeth-line

Or, to be precise, no.

It does NOT say that a zone 1-6 travelcard will cover travel on the
Elizabeth Line as far as Heathrow. It's well written as smoke and mirrors
but it offers no prices to Heathrow using travelcards, nor can I see any
reference to Freedom Passes. So what those of us outside London who would
expect to buy a day travelcard and not use Oyster are supposed to do is
entirely unstated.

Errr what does "with travelcards that cover Zone 6 able to be used on
services to Heathrow." mean then?

Probably what you think it does, but the release seems to me to have
been written very badly or very carefully, I'm not sure which.

Richard.

In message , at 20:55:41 on
Fri, 16 Mar 2018, Richard remarked:

It does NOT say that a zone 1-6 travelcard will cover travel on the
Elizabeth Line as far as Heathrow. It's well written as smoke and mirrors
but it offers no prices to Heathrow using travelcards, nor can I see any
reference to Freedom Passes. So what those of us outside London who would
expect to buy a day travelcard and not use Oyster are supposed to do is
entirely unstated.

Errr what does "with travelcards that cover Zone 6 able to be used on
services to Heathrow." mean then?

Probably what you think it does, but the release seems to me to have
been written very badly or very carefully, I'm not sure which.

It suffers from being a press release about the Mayor's infamous "fare
freeze" as much as an announcement about Elizabeth Line fares.

Much of the wriggling is because the Elizabeth Line (as discussed here
wrt roundels) is "neither fish nor flesh nor fowl" when it comes to
being a tube, an Overground or a National Rail line, having as it does a
station at Heathrow which both is and isn't in Z6 depending on the
ticket you buy.
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 08:37:14 on Sat, 17 Mar
2018, Roland Perry remarked:

Much of the wriggling is because the Elizabeth Line (as discussed here
wrt roundels) is "neither fish nor flesh nor fowl" when it comes to
being a tube, an Overground or a National Rail line, having as it does
a station at Heathrow which both is and isn't in Z6 depending on the
ticket you buy.

I think I'll change that last bit to "or fare you are charged", because
until your day's trips are amalgamated under the capping system, all you
actually "buy" with smart ticketing is a trip through a gate.
--
Roland Perry