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Crossrail fares announced - and a massive extension!
On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 12:26:01 +0000
Someone Somewhere wrote: On 19/03/2018 11:46, wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:31:20 +0000 Someone Somewhere wrote: On 19/03/2018 11:25, wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:09:36 +0000 Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 09:39:40 on Mon, 19 Mar 2018, remarked: It really is time to ditch this overcomplicated nonsense and bring in flat fares as is done in many other parts of the world. If it can work on the buses it can work on TfLs tube and train lines. Except the flat fare on a bus differs from the flat fare on the tube, which differs from the flat fare on a train. I wouldn't expect it to be the same tbh. You'd sit in a traffic jam in a bus if you wanted cheap, you'd pay more if you wanted to get their faster by the tube. I reckon 2-3 quid flat fare with no capping Does that include travel cards? What travel cards? You'd pay a flat fare per trip. Potentially more than doubling the cost of some annual fares? Yes, I can see that being a popular policy.... Why would it? For people who simply commute in and out it would be cheaper unless they're only commuting within zone 1. If you mean travel cards for national rail, too bad, they can pay the tube fare or walk. The difference would have to be made up somewhere. |
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Crossrail fares announced - and a massive extension!
On 19/03/2018 12:46, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 12:26:01 +0000 Someone Somewhere wrote: On 19/03/2018 11:46, wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:31:20 +0000 Someone Somewhere wrote: On 19/03/2018 11:25, wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:09:36 +0000 Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 09:39:40 on Mon, 19 Mar 2018, remarked: It really is time to ditch this overcomplicated nonsense and bring in flat fares as is done in many other parts of the world. If it can work on the buses it can work on TfLs tube and train lines. Except the flat fare on a bus differs from the flat fare on the tube, which differs from the flat fare on a train. I wouldn't expect it to be the same tbh. You'd sit in a traffic jam in a bus if you wanted cheap, you'd pay more if you wanted to get their faster by the tube. I reckon 2-3 quid flat fare with no capping Does that include travel cards? What travel cards? You'd pay a flat fare per trip. Potentially more than doubling the cost of some annual fares? Yes, I can see that being a popular policy.... Why would it? For people who simply commute in and out it would be cheaper unless they're only commuting within zone 1. If you mean travel cards for national rail, too bad, they can pay the tube fare or walk. The difference would have to be made up somewhere. 2 journeys a day in zone 3, £6. Include weekends, but no extra trips. 6 * 365 = £2190 Zone 3-4 travelcard = £1020 Yes, there are holidays and so on but then again some people make lots of trips on top of commuting so it may even out. |
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Crossrail fares announced - and a massive extension!
On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 12:54:58 +0000
Someone Somewhere wrote: On 19/03/2018 12:46, wrote: If you mean travel cards for national rail, too bad, they can pay the tube fare or walk. The difference would have to be made up somewhere. 2 journeys a day in zone 3, £6. Include weekends, but no extra trips. 6 * 365 = £2190 Zone 3-4 travelcard = £1020 Zone 1-4 = 1960, 1-5 = 2328, 1-6 = 2492 Plus 3 quid was at my upper limit, 2.50 IMO would be more reasonable so the cost comes down to 5 * 365 = 1825. Subtract weekends and its 5 * 260 = 1300 Yes, there are holidays and so on but then again some people make lots of trips on top of commuting so it may even out. Some people, yes, but with a flat fare someone will always end up paying more or it wouldn't be viable, but everyone benefits from a simpler fare system plus its less costly to administer, the savings of which can be passed back to the passenger. Plus there's a chance fare dodging could drop depending on how they rejigged the entry gates - you can't force your way through or over a head high turnstile (at least not without people noticing) like in the paris metro and numerous football grounds. Exit gates could be a simple waist high one. |
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Crossrail fares announced - and a massive extension!
I understood what you said about flat fares. You weren't saying THIS MUST BE THE FARE!! In this computer age there is scope for a Parisian carnet style product to be put on a card.
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Crossrail fares announced - and a massive extension!
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13:15:46 on Mon, 19 Mar 2018, Offramp remarked: I understood what you said about flat fares. You weren't saying THIS MUST BE THE FARE!! In this computer age there is scope for a Parisian carnet style product to be put on a card. Part-time seasons (in effect a carnet) were part of the DfT plan for National Rail a couple of years ago. It's gone awfully quiet though. Pre-Oyster I used London Underground paper carnet tickets. -- Roland Perry |
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