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![]() "Tom Anderson" wrote in message ... On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Sky Fly wrote: Here's an idea I thought about to improve bus services in London. Instead of having all bus routes serve all bus stops in London, there would be a division of bus routes into 'local' and 'express' bus routes. Bloody good idea. However, i think it would need to be planned in concert with the rail network; you wouldn't want to have express bus lines duplicating the inherently fast rail lines. Perhaps the bus lines would assume a more orbital configuration, moving people around within the suburbs rather than in and out of the town centre (exactly like the Brixton - Croydon route you describe). Although it would be very nice indeed if there were express night bus services covering the rail corridors. Actually, I don't see any reason why you couldn't have the 'radial' routes as well as the 'orbital' ones. Bus travel is cheaper and much more frequent that rail services in some areas. Local routes would serve all currently designated bus stops, but their range would be limited so that no journey was longer than 5 miles. So the existing routes would be split into 5-mile chunks? I'm not sure of the necessity of this, and the introduction of arbitrary breaks would make certain short journeys (from one side of the break to the other) much harder than at present. This could be the main problem - although I'm gambling that most bus journeys rarely ever take place over the full route. Perhaps we can have an informal survey here - typically, how long is your busy journey measured by bus stops? If I'm right, then we can have an existing 9 mile route split into two 6 mile local routes with a 3 mile overlap, with the hope that very few people will have their journey 'broken up'. This would be to improve reliability - the longer a bus route, the greater the chance that 'bunching' will happen and the more the timetable is thrown out of whack. I'm not entirely convinced that bunching is unavoidable with long routes; surely it could be beaten by better control systems? I'm thinking of detecting that buses are close (which would mean tracking them by GPS or GPRS triangulation) and instructing the back one to slow down a bit. It isn't, but if the stops are limited, I think it would be reduced. I'm sure you know that bunching happens when the bus ahead stops to hoover up waiting passengers, and thus the bus behind (which has no passengers to pick up) can catch up with the bus ahead. So the fewer stops there are, the less chance of bunching (especially if at the major stops, there are always people waiting to be picked up so that the bus coming from behind doesn't have the chance to catch up). Express routes would serve specially designated stops (which would be at major town centres - as an example, the 109 which currently runs from Brixton to Croydon might stop at Brixton, Streatham, Norbury, Thornton Heath and Croydon). The routes would be longer distance routes, because the limited stops would mean that the journey would be a lot faster. Also, these routes would have priority for bus lanes, traffic modulation measures, better driver training, linking of traffic lights to the bus control system, bendybuses, nicer bus shelters, etc. Also, because they only need to get from point to point without stopping on the way, they can make more use of fast, non-stoppable roads like clearways and such, which should speed them up even further. Agreed. A twist on the scheme would be to have partial express services, along the lines of the fast Metropolitan services; you might have something which looked like Finsbury Park - Hackney - Stratford which stopped at all the present 106 or 253/4 stops between FP and Hackney, but was then express from Hackney to Stratford. I have no idea if that particular route would be any use, but there might well be cases where that sort of thing would be good. I'm not really a fan of this - as I said in my reply to Dave Arquati, I fear that it would confuse the passengers to have to remember which part of the route is local and which is express (and I *know* that confusion over bus routes is one thing that drives many people away from using buses). I think it's simpler for people to know that a route stops at several very prominent stops, just like a railway route. |
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