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Greetings all.
My father got his free Local Authority bus pass through the post just
the other day. Previously it was only valid on local buses in our
district but I hear that is will now be valid on all local buses
throughout England. Even though he lives in Bucks does this mean his
pass will be valid on London ( TFL) buses as well ?

Thanks in abundance,

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Greetings all.
My father got his free Local Authority bus pass through the post just
the other day. Previously it was only valid on local buses in our
district but I hear that is will now be valid on all local buses
throughout England. Even though he lives in Bucks does this mean his
pass will be valid on London ( TFL) buses as well ?


Yes.

"all local buses in England from 1st April"

So all cross boundary buses too, eg all Kingston to Staines buses, TFL
or not.

There have been newspaper advertisments and leaflets and indeed
information on local council web sites.

http://www.elmbridge.gov.uk/

A leaflet from my local council (Borough of Elmbridge, Surrey) notes
that all English passes, not just the London Freedom passes, will be
accepted on London buses from 09:00 Mon-Fri rather than the 09:30 which
is the national standard. Also 09:00 in Woking, Elmbridge, Epsom &
Ewell and Mole Valley Districts.

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In message .uk, Colin
Rosenstiel writes
In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

wrote:
Greetings all.
My father got his free Local Authority bus pass through the post just
the other day. Previously it was only valid on local buses in our
district but I hear that is will now be valid on all local buses
throughout England. Even though he lives in Bucks does this mean his
pass will be valid on London ( TFL) buses as well ?


Yes, from 1st April. Only on buses, though, not on the
Underground, DLR, Trams etc.


Are you sure about trams? They use Bus Zones.


Yes, the passes are only obliged to be accepted on buses and not on
other services.

However, when Mum's arrived a couple of weeks ago the (Centro) paperwork
accompanying it said in response to a Q&A about availability on trams
and Metro services elsewhere that it *might * be made available and to
"check locally".

Trams like Croydon, Midland Metro, Manchester Metrolink, T&W Metro and
so on seem unlikely to me to accept them. The one place I thought
*might* bend that rule would be Blackpool, where the tram is (forgive me
for this!) more of a "bus on rails". But it remains to be seen.

Anyway, I was surprised about the Centro answer; I thought it would be
a blanket "no".
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Michael R N Dolbear wrote:

A leaflet from my local council (Borough of Elmbridge, Surrey) notes
that all English passes, not just the London Freedom passes, will be
accepted on London buses from 09:00 Mon-Fri rather than the 09:30 which
is the national standard. Also 09:00 in Woking, Elmbridge, Epsom &
Ewell and Mole Valley Districts.

Similarly for Warwickshire (excluding Coventry), according to my
Nuneaton & Bedworth issued one.

Peter Beale
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Richard J. wrote:
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

wrote:
Greetings all.
My father got his free Local Authority bus pass through the post
just the other day. Previously it was only valid on local buses in
our district but I hear that is will now be valid on all local
buses throughout England. Even though he lives in Bucks does this
mean his pass will be valid on London ( TFL) buses as well ?

Yes, from 1st April. Only on buses, though, not on the
Underground, DLR, Trams etc.


Are you sure about trams? They use Bus Zones.


Bus Zones in London haven't existed since 2004.

The info on the national bus pass scheme at direct.gov.uk says that
it gives free travel on local buses only. "Local authorities will
still be able to offer further benefits *to their residents*, but
these will only apply for travel in the local area and not anywhere
in England." I haven't seen anything on the TfL site about the
national scheme, so I'm assuming that the "bus only" rule applies to
non-London residents.


TfL's info is on their website under /tickets/freedom pass/national scheme,
but because the freedom pass is actually run by the London councils, there
is better info on their site Q&A at:

http://www.freedompass.org/questionsanswered.htm

Also interesting to see that the councils are at odds with Ken about the
Freedom Pass, which obviously isn't free to the councils, like the national
bus scheme, TfL companies still need paying:

http://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/doc.asp?doc=20258

Paul S


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Ian Jelf wrote:

Trams like Croydon, Midland Metro, Manchester Metrolink, T&W Metro and
so on seem unlikely to me to accept them.



In Greater Manchester, the over-60s travel pass is certainly accepted on
Metrolink, as well as on trains within the GMPTE area.

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Stephen Farrow wrote:
Ian Jelf wrote:

Trams like Croydon, Midland Metro, Manchester Metrolink, T&W Metro
and so on seem unlikely to me to accept them.



In Greater Manchester, the over-60s travel pass is certainly accepted
on Metrolink, as well as on trains within the GMPTE area.


Yes, but surely that's only for Greater Manchester over-60s? Just like the
Freedom Pass in London. The issue we were discussing was whether non-local
over-60s can get free travel on anything other than buses. The answer seems
to be no.
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