Robin Mayes wrote:
"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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Here's a thought - will the ticket office at King's Cross Thameslink
remain open? I suppose the subway is staying open so the ticket office
will have to - but will it be transferred to LU?


Why should they be transferred?

Because won't Thameslink have a completely new ticket office at St
Pancras Midland Road? Would there be any point in them running that
office at Pentonville Road when that entrance will only be particularly
useful for the Victoria Line?

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Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

On 9 Apr 2004 03:25:28 -0700, (Martin Whelton)
wrote:

My understanding is that the new St Pancras Thameslink station is
opening next year.
That seems unlikely - the last statement from SRA was that "they have
not yet identified funding for completing St Pancras Thameslink".

The line is being split in September to facilatate
work with trains from the south terminating at Kings Cross Thameslink(
a crossover is being constructed) or Blackfriars. Trains from the
north will run into the new part of St Pncras being constructed on
it's east side.

That is correct. However all that emerges in December is a crude
concrete box which will need equipping as a station.

I for one hope that Kings Cross Thameslink remains
open when St Pancras Thamselink station opens as it provides useful
connections to the Underground which the new station will not have.

Agreed, but it won't happen.

Although they will be a quite near each other the distance will still
be further then between Blackfriars and City Thameslink. Though Kings
Cross Thameslink will have to close if train lengths ever got
increased to 12, nevertheless while the whole Thameslink 2000 project
remains in abeyance they should not close the station.

I doubt whether St P TL will open until the new LU booking halls at KX
are in use.
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Peter Lawrence

"Peter Lawrence" wrote in message
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I doubt whether St P TL will open until the new LU booking halls at KX
are in use.

Hopefully the new Western (Met) ticket hall should open towards the latter
part of this year.

Nick Lawford wrote:

"Heliomass" wrote in message



I was thinking today, what is going to happen to the existing Kings Cross
Thameslink when the new underground St. Pancras station opens?


Blown off the face of the earth I hope.

It has to be the worst station on the UK rail network in terms of
facilities and environment in relation to the number of passengers using
it.

If I understood a recent Modern Railways itme correctly, there is
presently some doubt as to whether or not the new KX-SP-CTRL station
will be completed ahead of TL2000 works. As the latter has yet to be
authorised, I interpreted that as it may not be opened.

I hope thats either wrong or I mis-read it.

The Thameslink route is being closed for six months over the summer with
trains to/from the north terminating at St Pancras and to/from the south
terminating at King's Cross Thameslink - so I hope they're building the
station in the meantime otherwise it's a waste of time!

AIUI St Pancras Midland Road should be ready way before TL2K.

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Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Dave Arquati wrote:

(snip)
The Thameslink route is being closed for six months over the summer with
trains to/from the north terminating at St Pancras and to/from the south
terminating at King's Cross Thameslink - so I hope they're building the
station in the meantime otherwise it's a waste of time!

....and by summer of course I mean summer in the southern hemisphere.

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Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

"Dave Arquati" wrote in message



The Thameslink route is being closed for six months over the summer with
trains to/from the north terminating at St Pancras and to/from the south
terminating at King's Cross Thameslink - so I hope they're building the
station in the meantime otherwise it's a waste of time!

No.

They are building the station box not the station. When TL re-opens as a
through route after the possession you coreectly describe, TL continues
with operationas it is now, the exisitng KX TL, not any new station.

The new station is not due to open until 2007 when SP opens for CTRL.

What the item in Modern Railways says is that SRA has yet to find the
funds for equipping to new TL station. No funds = no station. No
station = no 12 cars. etc. etc.

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"Dave Arquati" wrote in message



The Thameslink route is being closed for six months over the summer with
trains to/from the north terminating at St Pancras and to/from the south
terminating at King's Cross Thameslink - so I hope they're building the
station in the meantime otherwise it's a waste of time!

No.

They are building the station box not the station. When TL re-opens as a
through route after the possession you coreectly describe, TL continues
with operationas it is now, the exisitng KX TL, not any new station.

The new station is not due to open until 2007 when SP opens for CTRL.

What the item in Modern Railways says is that SRA has yet to find the
funds for equipping to new TL station. No funds = no station. No
station = no 12 cars. etc. etc.

Presumably if the opening of the new station was delayed, the existing one
would remain in service for longer - or are there plans to close the old one
come what may, potentially leaving KX/SP without a Thameslink station for a
while?

"Nick Lawford" wrote in message news:31ff6b3c5fc212b9199ef76416437c9f.97781@mygat e.mailgate.org...

Blown off the face of the earth I hope.

It has to be the worst station on the UK rail network in terms of
facilities and environment in relation to the number of passengers using
it.

HEAR HEAR ! Sorry to shout but it is worth it in this case.


If I understood a recent Modern Railways itme correctly, there is
presently some doubt as to whether or not the new KX-SP-CTRL station
will be completed ahead of TL2000 works. As the latter has yet to be
authorised, I interpreted that as it may not be opened.

I hope thats either wrong or I mis-read it.


Indeed !

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Nick

Fat Richard

You obviously do not have much experience of the Kings Cross area!,
yes the station is not perfect but it is a hell of a lot better then
some on the network and when it closes it will mean at least an extra
10 minutes walk to work for me from the new location. I would probably
use the underground instead.

Martin

(Fat Richard) wrote in message . com...
"Nick Lawford" wrote in message news:31ff6b3c5fc212b9199ef76416437c9f.97781@mygat e.mailgate.org...

Blown off the face of the earth I hope.

It has to be the worst station on the UK rail network in terms of
facilities and environment in relation to the number of passengers using
it.

HEAR HEAR ! Sorry to shout but it is worth it in this case.


If I understood a recent Modern Railways itme correctly, there is
presently some doubt as to whether or not the new KX-SP-CTRL station
will be completed ahead of TL2000 works. As the latter has yet to be
authorised, I interpreted that as it may not be opened.

I hope thats either wrong or I mis-read it.


Indeed !

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Nick

Fat Richard

In article ,
(Martin Whelton) wrote:

You obviously do not have much experience of the Kings Cross area!,
yes the station is not perfect but it is a hell of a lot better then
some on the network and when it closes it will mean at least an extra
10 minutes walk to work for me from the new location. I would probably
use the underground instead.

TEN minutes?! You must walk very slowly.

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Colin Rosenstiel