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I was thinking today, what is going to happen to the existing Kings Cross
Thameslink when the new underground St. Pancras station opens? Will they
still leave it connected to the system as an alternate route when the new
line is closed, or maybe use it for freight?

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Will they still leave it connected to the
system as an alternate route when the new
line is closed, or maybe use it for freight?


There is no new line. The new station will be built around the existing
line, and when the new station opens, the trains will still run through the
closed station without stopping.

Note that a similar thing happened to the Circle Line in the 1940s: the
Circle platforms at what is now Kings Cross Thameslink closed, but the
Circle Line trains continue to run past those platforms without stopping.
(The only difference is that the new Circle station was created by
separating the running tracks and putting a new island where the old tracks
had been - at St Pancras Midland Road, the new platforms will be built
outside of the existing pair of tracks.)

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There is no new line. The new station will be built around the existing
line, and when the new station opens, the trains will still run through

the
closed station without stopping.


What, so the station will be closed forever? If, so when does it close. I
was there yesterday and found it very annoying that there is an underground
tunnel linking Kings X and ThamesLink, but no mention of it above ground.
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I was there yesterday and found it very annoying that there is an

underground
tunnel linking Kings X and ThamesLink, but no mention of it above ground.


To use it you have to have a ticket valid on the Underground because you
have to go through an Underground gateline and the route is much slower and
more convoluted than the above ground way. The weather would have to be
really atrocious for it to be a sensible route when starting at ground
level.

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To use it you have to have a ticket valid on the Underground because you
have to go through an Underground gateline and the route is much slower

and
more convoluted than the above ground way. The weather would have to be
really atrocious for it to be a sensible route when starting at ground
level.


When coming off a ThamesLink train, it was much better and more convenient I
found to transfer to the VictoriaLine.
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"Joe" wrote in message
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To use it you have to have a ticket valid on the Underground because you
have to go through an Underground gateline and the route is much slower

and
more convoluted than the above ground way. The weather would have to be
really atrocious for it to be a sensible route when starting at ground
level.


When coming off a ThamesLink train, it was much better and more convenient

I
found to transfer to the VictoriaLine.


Yes, well it would be. But that's not what the post was in reply to. It is
not better or convenient to go the underground route from Kings Cross
concourse to Kings Cross Thameslink concourse.

Dave.


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"Joe" wrote in message
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When coming off a ThamesLink train, it was much better
and more convenient I found to transfer to the VictoriaLine.


Yes, but the underground route between the tube and Thameslink *is*
signposted from all deep tube platforms and also from the Thameslink end.

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To use it you have to have a ticket valid on the Underground because you
have to go through an Underground gateline and the route is much slower

and
more convoluted than the above ground way. The weather would have to be
really atrocious for it to be a sensible route when starting at ground
level.

If you have a ticketvalid for a through journey that involves changing from
Kings Cross or St Pancras to Kings Cross Thameslink, you almost certainly
have a ticket with LUL validity. Are there any tickets which will work the
gates at KXTL but not at KX (LUL)?
Peter


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On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 09:09:11 +0100, "Dave Liney"
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"Joe" wrote in message
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I was there yesterday and found it very annoying that there is an

underground
tunnel linking Kings X and ThamesLink, but no mention of it above ground.


To use it you have to have a ticket valid on the Underground because you
have to go through an Underground gateline and the route is much slower and
more convoluted than the above ground way. The weather would have to be
really atrocious for it to be a sensible route when starting at ground
level.

Dave.


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"Joe" wrote in message
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There is no new line. The new station will be built around the existing
line, and when the new station opens, the trains will still run through

the
closed station without stopping.


What, so the station will be closed forever? If, so when does it close. I
was there yesterday and found it very annoying that there is an

underground
tunnel linking Kings X and ThamesLink, but no mention of it above ground.


Because to use it, you have to have a ticket to go through the Picadilly
gate at KGX.

Marcus





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