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"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote in message ...
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Or fired. Anyone who takes over 200 days off sick is either an invalid or
taking the ****. Given that he could play squash he certainly wasn't
the former.

[...]
getting sick pay when theres clearly nothing
wrong with him.


You are clearly a complete and utter idiot.

There are *plenty* of circumstances where one can be able to play squash
yet be unable to do a job like train driving. I do a desk job, and there
are plenty of circumstances where I would be able to play squash[*] but
not do my job. I've even suffered a few.

[*] In the physical sense not the skill sense - my co-ordination is such
that, even after half a dozen lessons, I was as likely to miss as hit
the ball.


I think most people, (me included) would need it explained in very
short and simple word what exactly a driver *might* need to do that
could possibly involve some movement of foot / ankle / leg that a game
of squash would not be expected to involve to some degree.

I have climbed in and out of a full sized 3rd rail EMU via the drivers
steps to track level a few times, and while not completely simple, I
did not find it that much of a challenge.
I am inclined to go with the public opinion that he was swinging the
lead a bit until someone explains how running around a court making
major course changes at short notice can be more physically demanding
than climbing out of a cab and walking along the track.
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OE-QuoteFixDave Babb wrote:

I think most people, (me included) would need it explained in very
short and simple word what exactly a driver might need to do that
could possibly involve some movement of foot / ankle / leg that a game
of squash would not be expected to involve to some degree.

I have climbed in and out of a full sized 3rd rail EMU via the drivers
steps to track level a few times, and while not completely simple, I
did not find it that much of a challenge.
I am inclined to go with the public opinion that he was swinging the
lead a bit until someone explains how running around a court making
major course changes at short notice can be more physically demanding
than climbing out of a cab and walking along the track.


Remember it's reported he originally claimed that he was playing squash on
medical advice but later reports said he'd said he found the prescribed
physio
'monotonous' so had self-prescribed squash to strengthen the ankle.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/st...212011,00.html


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Stimpy wrote:
OE-QuoteFixDave Babb wrote:

I think most people, (me included) would need it explained in very
short and simple word what exactly a driver might need to do that
could possibly involve some movement of foot / ankle / leg that a
game of squash would not be expected to involve to some degree.

I have climbed in and out of a full sized 3rd rail EMU via the
drivers steps to track level a few times, and while not completely
simple, I did not find it that much of a challenge.
I am inclined to go with the public opinion that he was swinging
the lead a bit until someone explains how running around a court
making major course changes at short notice can be more physically
demanding than climbing out of a cab and walking along the track.


Remember it's reported he originally claimed that he was playing
squash on medical advice but later reports said he'd said he found
the prescribed physio
'monotonous' so had self-prescribed squash to strengthen the ankle.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/st...212011,00.html


Also, the tribunal judgement was that he was 75% to blame for his own
dismissal. AFAIK London Underground lost the case on a technicality,
because they had introduced additional grounds for dismissal at the
appeal stage.
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In article , Dave Babb
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I think most people, (me included) would need it explained in very
short and simple word what exactly a driver *might* need to do that
could possibly involve some movement of foot / ankle / leg that a game
of squash would not be expected to involve to some degree.


Like I've just posted elsewhere in this thread, it's not just a case of
"physically demanding". There's also a case of "can you sustain it for
hours".

Playing squash for exercise, if you get one twinge you can stop and no
harm is done. That doesn't mean you can *commit* to lighter work - e.g.
being able to **guarantee** that you'll be able to walk for a mile along
the trackbed if necessary.

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