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.... the one who was caught playing squash while on sick leave. Can someone
explain the grounds on which his dismissal was deemed unfair? |
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"Badabing" wrote in message ... ... the one who was caught playing squash while on sick leave. Can someone explain the grounds on which his dismissal was deemed unfair? It's unfair to passengers, on the grounds that he won't be around for us to kick his miserable, thieving, lead-swinging, lying arse! Ian |
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Badabing wrote:
... the one who was caught playing squash while on sick leave. Can someone explain the grounds on which his dismissal was deemed unfair? The full story is at http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/st...212011,00.html but the gist of it is that LUL failed to follow the correct procedure for his dismissal. More specifically they added (ISTR) the charge of "dishonesty" to the list of reasons between quoted at the appeal when it wasn't quoted in the original disciplinary hearing. This discrepancy made the case invalid. The tribunal decided the driver was "75% to blame for his dismissal". Seems to me that he got off on a technicality |
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"Badabing" wrote in message ... ... the one who was caught playing squash while on sick leave. Can someone explain the grounds on which his dismissal was deemed unfair? Briefly read a story along the lines of he proved (to the satisfaction of the tribunal) that his physical therapist had drawn up a plan for his recovery which included playing squash to strengthen his (foot?). LUL had not taken this evidence into account when they dismissed him, and had unfairly concluded that he had been throwing a sickie on the basis that their investigator 'caught' him outside a leisure centre. In addition to this, the RMT claim that someone in LUL then leaked his medical records to the press when the strike was threatened, which is a breach of confidentiality. Just reporting what I read....... Colin |
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"Colin" wrote in message ... "Badabing" wrote in message ... ... the one who was caught playing squash while on sick leave. Can someone explain the grounds on which his dismissal was deemed unfair? Briefly read a story along the lines of he proved (to the satisfaction of the tribunal) that his physical therapist had drawn up a plan for his recovery which included playing squash to strengthen his (foot?). LUL had not taken this evidence into account when they dismissed him, and had unfairly concluded that he had been throwing a sickie on the basis that their investigator 'caught' him outside a leisure centre. In addition to this, the RMT claim that someone in LUL then leaked his medical records to the press when the strike was threatened, which is a breach of confidentiality. Just reporting what I read....... If you go to www.bbc.co.uk/radio2 , to the 'Listen Again' section, you can hear him speaking to Jeremy Vine on today's programme. This should be available to listen to (and laugh at!) until Wednesday lunchtime. He got quite a pasting from callers! |
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"Jack Taylor" wrote in
: "Colin" wrote in message ... "Badabing" wrote in message ... ... the one who was caught playing squash while on sick leave. Can someone explain the grounds on which his dismissal was deemed unfair? Briefly read a story along the lines of he proved (to the satisfaction of the tribunal) that his physical therapist had drawn up a plan for his recovery which included playing squash to strengthen his (foot?). LUL had not taken this evidence into account when they dismissed him, and had unfairly concluded that he had been throwing a sickie on the basis that their investigator 'caught' him outside a leisure centre. In addition to this, the RMT claim that someone in LUL then leaked his medical records to the press when the strike was threatened, which is a breach of confidentiality. Just reporting what I read....... If you go to www.bbc.co.uk/radio2 , to the 'Listen Again' section, you can hear him speaking to Jeremy Vine on today's programme. This should be available to listen to (and laugh at!) until Wednesday lunchtime. He got quite a pasting from callers! From what I understand of the nonsense that came out of his mouth is that he was running and playing squash because he thought it would be a good way to test his ankle. Shouldn't his rehab have been overseen more properly by his doctor? And he didn't have any contact with Occupational Health? That I find very hard to belief! ISTR that he didn't want to work for LU anymore and had found a job with the local council and now he wants to go back to LU? He doesn't seem to know what he wants! w |
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woutster wrote:
If you go to www.bbc.co.uk/radio2 , to the 'Listen Again' section, you can hear him speaking to Jeremy Vine on today's programme. This should be available to listen to (and laugh at!) until Wednesday lunchtime. He got quite a pasting from callers! From what I understand of the nonsense that came out of his mouth is that he was running and playing squash because he thought it would be a good way to test his ankle. Shouldn't his rehab have been overseen more properly by his doctor? And he didn't have any contact with Occupational Health? That I find very hard to belief! In the Guardian report cited earlier he claimed that the prescribed physio was "monotonous and boring" so he played squash instead as a way of building up his ankle -- The presence of this sig indicates that I'm under the influence of excess alcohol. Until I'm sober enough to remember to switch this sig file off, please treat the above as merely drunken ranting and treat it with the contempt it probably deserves. I apologise in advance for any offence caused :-) |
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woutster wrote in message 8.218...
ISTR that he didn't want to work for LU anymore and had found a job with the local council and now he wants to go back to LU? He doesn't seem to know what he wants! The fact that a local council is prepared to employ lying workshy ******* like him says a lot about local government and its generally appalling record in most things. B2003 |
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"Stimpy" wrote in message
... In the Guardian report cited earlier he claimed that the prescribed physio was "monotonous and boring" so he played squash instead as a way of building up his ankle How can a Tube driver dislike something that's monotonous and boring? -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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Jack Taylor wrote:
If you go to www.bbc.co.uk/radio2 , to the 'Listen Again' section, you can hear him speaking to Jeremy Vine on today's programme. This should be available to listen to (and laugh at!) until Wednesday lunchtime. He got quite a pasting from callers! Interesting that none of them took into account the question of safety if he were to return to work in an unfit state. As is usual, this seems like a case of 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. If he has had a lot of time off sick why wasn't he moved into a more suitable job? I'm sure the LU apologists will try and blame "the unions". However management are paid to manage and have presviously moved unfit people from one job to another. |
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"Piccadilly Pilot" wrote in message ... Interesting that none of them took into account the question of safety if he were to return to work in an unfit state. Indeed. There was the usual assumption that all a train driver does is sit in the cab and drive the train. His point about what would happen in an emergency if he had to stop the train between stations and, possibly, climb down to track level or assist in the evacuation of the train was conveniently ignored. This was about the only point upon which I sympathised with him. As is usual, this seems like a case of 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. If he has had a lot of time off sick why wasn't he moved into a more suitable job? Probably some archaic union agreement which does not allow it! |
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Jack Taylor wrote:
"Piccadilly Pilot" wrote in message ... Interesting that none of them took into account the question of safety if he were to return to work in an unfit state. Indeed. There was the usual assumption that all a train driver does is sit in the cab and drive the train. His point about what would happen in an emergency if he had to stop the train between stations and, possibly, climb down to track level or assist in the evacuation of the train was conveniently ignored. This was about the only point upon which I sympathised with him. As is usual, this seems like a case of 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. If he has had a lot of time off sick why wasn't he moved into a more suitable job? Probably some archaic union agreement which does not allow it! Interesting that you snipped my paragraph saying that it had been done before. Here it is again for anyone that missed it. "I'm sure the LU apologists will try and blame "the unions". However management are paid to manage and have presviously moved unfit people from one job to another." |
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The fact that a local council is prepared to employ lying workshy *******
like him says a lot about local government B2003 Well don't forget that, before he gave them a gift of a reason for sacking him, so did London Underground. Marc. |
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In message , Piccadilly Pilot
writes As is usual, this seems like a case of 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. If he has had a lot of time off sick why wasn't he moved into a more suitable job? Probably some archaic union agreement which does not allow it! Interesting that you snipped my paragraph saying that it had been done before. Here it is again for anyone that missed it. "I'm sure the LU apologists will try and blame "the unions". However management are paid to manage and have presviously moved unfit people from one job to another." Although since the onset of PPP there are precious few jobs to move people to within LU. In the olden days(tm) people were apparently moved to depot jobs. -- Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building. You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK (please use the reply to address for email) |
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In article , Boltar
writes Or fired. Anyone who takes over 200 days off sick is either an invalid or taking the ****. Given that he could play squash he certainly wasn't the former. [...] getting sick pay when theres clearly nothing wrong with him. You are clearly a complete and utter idiot. There are *plenty* of circumstances where one can be able to play squash yet be unable to do a job like train driving. I do a desk job, and there are plenty of circumstances where I would be able to play squash[*] but not do my job. I've even suffered a few. [*] In the physical sense not the skill sense - my co-ordination is such that, even after half a dozen lessons, I was as likely to miss as hit the ball. -- Clive D.W. Feather | Home: Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is: |
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"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote in message ...
In article , Boltar writes Or fired. Anyone who takes over 200 days off sick is either an invalid or taking the ****. Given that he could play squash he certainly wasn't the former. [...] getting sick pay when theres clearly nothing wrong with him. You are clearly a complete and utter idiot. There are *plenty* of circumstances where one can be able to play squash yet be unable to do a job like train driving. I do a desk job, and there Maybe there are , but he was claiming a dodgy ankle. Please do explain how he could play squash with a bad ankle but couldn't drive a train with one? (Oh , and spare me the heroic leading passengers through the tunnel crap, if he can walk he can do that). So , please , explain... are plenty of circumstances where I would be able to play squash[*] but not do my job. I've even suffered a few. [*] In the physical sense not the skill sense - my co-ordination is such that, even after half a dozen lessons, I was as likely to miss as hit the ball. Stop talking out your arse, its beginning to smell around here. B2003 |
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"Piccadilly Pilot" wrote in message ...
Boltar wrote: "Piccadilly Pilot" wrote in message ... Jack Taylor wrote: If you go to www.bbc.co.uk/radio2 , to the 'Listen Again' section, you can hear him speaking to Jeremy Vine on today's programme. This should be available to listen to (and laugh at!) until Wednesday lunchtime. He got quite a pasting from callers! Interesting that none of them took into account the question of safety if he were to return to work in an unfit state. You're not a mate of Bob Crowes are you? No, are you in favour of running an unsafe railway? Oh here we go , the standard issue "safety" question to question. I think that says it all about you mate. Have you ever suffered serious physical injury? *LOL*. Oh please , are you for real?? Yes I have actually , and it was a damn site more than a bust ankle and I still managed to go back to work with plaster casts because some of us in this world behave like adults and take our responsibilities seriously. Unlike you wasters down at LUL it seems. Nice little gravy train for you lot isn't it? 32K a year, fairly easy job apart from a few unsociable hours, as many sick days as you like. I think I'm in the wrong job. B2003 |
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"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote... You are clearly a complete and utter idiot. More likely, he's just a troll out looking for attention. Ignore him then he'll get bored and find some other newsgroup to annoy. |
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"Solar Penguin" wrote in message ... "Clive D. W. Feather" wrote... You are clearly a complete and utter idiot. More likely, he's just a troll out looking for attention. Ignore him then he'll get bored and find some other newsgroup to annoy. You clearly haven't much experience of this newsgroup then, if you are accusing a long-term poster and recognised authority on LUL and signalling matters as a troll! Try doing a search on Clive's name on uk.transport.london and uk.railway or looking at his website and you'll realise what a stupid statement that was! ;-) |
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In article , Jack Taylor wrote:
"Solar Penguin" wrote in message ... "Clive D. W. Feather" wrote... You are clearly a complete and utter idiot. More likely, he's just a troll out looking for attention. Ignore him then he'll get bored and find some other newsgroup to annoy. [snip] Try doing a search on Clive's name on uk.transport.london and uk.railway or looking at his website and you'll realise what a stupid statement that was! ;-) Uh, he was referring to Boltar, not Clive. Niklas -- It has always amused me that on the southbound A14 just north of Cambridge is a sign pointing to the crematorium and the airport. -- Dave Daniels in a.f.c |
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In message , Jack Taylor
writes "Solar Penguin" wrote in message ... "Clive D. W. Feather" wrote... You are clearly a complete and utter idiot. More likely, he's just a troll out looking for attention. Ignore him then he'll get bored and find some other newsgroup to annoy. You clearly haven't much experience of this newsgroup then, if you are accusing a long-term poster and recognised authority on LUL and signalling matters as a troll! Try doing a search on Clive's name on uk.transport.london and uk.railway or looking at his website and you'll realise what a stupid statement that was! ;-) I don't believe SP was referring to Clive as a troll but the person Clive was replying to... (One of the problems with 2D conversations) -- Kat Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no. |
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"Niklas Karlsson" wrote in message ... In article , Jack Taylor wrote: "Solar Penguin" wrote in message ... "Clive D. W. Feather" wrote... You are clearly a complete and utter idiot. More likely, he's just a troll out looking for attention. Ignore him then he'll get bored and find some other newsgroup to annoy. [snip] Try doing a search on Clive's name on uk.transport.london and uk.railway or looking at his website and you'll realise what a stupid statement that was! ;-) Uh, he was referring to Boltar, not Clive. Whoops! |
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"Kat" wrote in message ... I don't believe SP was referring to Clive as a troll but the person Clive was replying to... (One of the problems with 2D conversations) It doesn't help with me being half asleep whilst I'm reading through uk.r and u.t.l !!! ;-)) |
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In message , Jack Taylor
writes "Kat" wrote in message ... I don't believe SP was referring to Clive as a troll but the person Clive was replying to... (One of the problems with 2D conversations) It doesn't help with me being half asleep whilst I'm reading through uk.r and u.t.l !!! ;-)) LOL! B2003 is your usual sort of LU-staff hater; cast from the CJG mould but lacking the elegant turn of phrase ;-) -- Kat Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no. |
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"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote in message ...
In article , Boltar writes Or fired. Anyone who takes over 200 days off sick is either an invalid or taking the ****. Given that he could play squash he certainly wasn't the former. [...] getting sick pay when theres clearly nothing wrong with him. You are clearly a complete and utter idiot. There are *plenty* of circumstances where one can be able to play squash yet be unable to do a job like train driving. I do a desk job, and there are plenty of circumstances where I would be able to play squash[*] but not do my job. I've even suffered a few. [*] In the physical sense not the skill sense - my co-ordination is such that, even after half a dozen lessons, I was as likely to miss as hit the ball. I think most people, (me included) would need it explained in very short and simple word what exactly a driver *might* need to do that could possibly involve some movement of foot / ankle / leg that a game of squash would not be expected to involve to some degree. I have climbed in and out of a full sized 3rd rail EMU via the drivers steps to track level a few times, and while not completely simple, I did not find it that much of a challenge. I am inclined to go with the public opinion that he was swinging the lead a bit until someone explains how running around a court making major course changes at short notice can be more physically demanding than climbing out of a cab and walking along the track. |
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Clive D. W. Feather wrote: You are clearly a complete and utter idiot. Tell us what you /really/ think, Clive. -- You dont have to be illiterate to use the Internet, but it help's. |
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Boltar wrote: Maybe there are , but he was claiming a dodgy ankle. Please do explain how he could play squash with a bad ankle but couldn't drive a train with one? Frankly, I don't know if it's likely that an ankle injury could be fit for a game of squash, but not for driving a train. That's because I don't know much about driving trains, or ankles. So, I have to rely on expert opinion. You medical qualifications are? -- You dont have to be illiterate to use the Internet, but it help's. |
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OE-QuoteFixDave Babb wrote:
I think most people, (me included) would need it explained in very short and simple word what exactly a driver might need to do that could possibly involve some movement of foot / ankle / leg that a game of squash would not be expected to involve to some degree. I have climbed in and out of a full sized 3rd rail EMU via the drivers steps to track level a few times, and while not completely simple, I did not find it that much of a challenge. I am inclined to go with the public opinion that he was swinging the lead a bit until someone explains how running around a court making major course changes at short notice can be more physically demanding than climbing out of a cab and walking along the track. Remember it's reported he originally claimed that he was playing squash on medical advice but later reports said he'd said he found the prescribed physio 'monotonous' so had self-prescribed squash to strengthen the ankle. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/st...212011,00.html |
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Boltar wrote:
"Piccadilly Pilot" wrote in message ... Boltar wrote: "Piccadilly Pilot" wrote in message ... Jack Taylor wrote: If you go to www.bbc.co.uk/radio2 , to the 'Listen Again' section, you can hear him speaking to Jeremy Vine on today's programme. This should be available to listen to (and laugh at!) until Wednesday lunchtime. He got quite a pasting from callers! Interesting that none of them took into account the question of safety if he were to return to work in an unfit state. You're not a mate of Bob Crowes are you? No, are you in favour of running an unsafe railway? Oh here we go , the standard issue "safety" question to question. I think that says it all about you mate. So you do approve of running an unsafe railway. Thank you for the confirmation. Have you ever suffered serious physical injury? *LOL*. Oh please , are you for real?? Yes I have actually , and it was a damn site more than a bust ankle and I still managed to go back to work with plaster casts because some of us in this world behave like adults and take our responsibilities seriously. Unlike you wasters down at LUL it seems. Nice little gravy train for you lot isn't it? 32K a year, fairly easy job apart from a few unsociable hours, as many sick days as you like. I think I'm in the wrong job. Firstly I don't work for London Underground Ltd and never have done. Whether or not one can do one's job with a plaster cast surely depends on the job. It's you who's the pillock because, as usual with people like you, you can't think about anyone or anything except yourself. |
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"Mike Bristow" wrote in message ... In article , Boltar wrote: Maybe there are , but he was claiming a dodgy ankle. Please do explain how he could play squash with a bad ankle but couldn't drive a train with one? Frankly, I don't know if it's likely that an ankle injury could be fit for a game of squash, but not for driving a train. That's because I don't know much about driving trains, or ankles. Everyone appears to be assuming that this guy was playing a full-on game of squash. However, he clearly indicated on Jeremy Vine's radio programme that he was only playing a light knock-up, to test the strength of his ankle. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me - after any such injury you ease the foot/ankle back into use, testing the lateral movement, the internal and external rotation etc. a bit at a time, before applying any 'heavy-duty' use to it. The kind of testing that might make it quite possible to drive a car but not a train, where it *might* be necessary to jump three feet down onto the trackbed, landing on the damaged ankle. My initial reaction to this guy was to damn him as a 'lead-swinger' but, having read much more about the case and heard some of his points from his own mouth, rather than as they have been reported, I'm beginning to think that there is a little bit more to this than meets the eye! |
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Stimpy wrote:
OE-QuoteFixDave Babb wrote: I think most people, (me included) would need it explained in very short and simple word what exactly a driver might need to do that could possibly involve some movement of foot / ankle / leg that a game of squash would not be expected to involve to some degree. I have climbed in and out of a full sized 3rd rail EMU via the drivers steps to track level a few times, and while not completely simple, I did not find it that much of a challenge. I am inclined to go with the public opinion that he was swinging the lead a bit until someone explains how running around a court making major course changes at short notice can be more physically demanding than climbing out of a cab and walking along the track. Remember it's reported he originally claimed that he was playing squash on medical advice but later reports said he'd said he found the prescribed physio 'monotonous' so had self-prescribed squash to strengthen the ankle. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/st...212011,00.html Also, the tribunal judgement was that he was 75% to blame for his own dismissal. AFAIK London Underground lost the case on a technicality, because they had introduced additional grounds for dismissal at the appeal stage. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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Jack Taylor wrote: My initial reaction to this guy was to damn him as a 'lead-swinger' but, having read much more about the case and heard some of his points from his own mouth, rather than as they have been reported, I'm beginning to think that there is a little bit more to this than meets the eye! There always is more than meets the eye, when comparing Real Life (tm) with anything printed in a newspaper. -- You dont have to be illiterate to use the Internet, but it help's. |
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Niklas Karlsson wrote...
In article , Jack Taylor wrote: Try doing a search on Clive's name on uk.transport.london and uk.railway or looking at his website and you'll realise what a stupid statement that was! ;-) Uh, he was referring to Boltar, not Clive. Thanks Niklas. I'd tried posting another message myself explaining that, but the news server was down. Boltar's definitely a troll. Look at his post in the Croxley thread where says the link is illogical because going via Buckinghamshire won't be the quickest route from London to Waford... No way he could genuinely believe even half of what he types. He's just doing it to wind us up. Ignore him and he'll go away, (or at least think up some better material). |
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Kat wrote in message ...
In message , Jack Taylor writes "Kat" wrote in message ... I don't believe SP was referring to Clive as a troll but the person Clive was replying to... (One of the problems with 2D conversations) It doesn't help with me being half asleep whilst I'm reading through uk.r and u.t.l !!! ;-)) LOL! B2003 is your usual sort of LU-staff hater; cast from the CJG mould but lacking the elegant turn of phrase ;-) I don't hate LUL staff, in fact I don't even hate this guy though I believe he's a waste of space. What I do hate is the get-away-with-it mentality that seems to be prevalent. And judging by the fact that I've been called a troll (uk.transport.london speak for someone who actually had an opinion and doesn't just bleat along in time with the rest of the sheep) it seems that a lot of people on here have no problem with it. Which sums up Britain today. B2003 |
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"Boltar" wrote in message om... I don't hate LUL staff, in fact I don't even hate this guy though I believe he's a waste of space. What I do hate is the get-away-with-it mentality that seems to be prevalent. And judging by the fact that I've been called a troll (uk.transport.london speak for someone who actually had an opinion and doesn't just bleat along in time with the rest of the sheep) it seems that a lot of people on here have no problem with it. Which sums up Britain today. Whether or not I agree with you opinion(s) I wholeheartedly defend your right to express them. As you say, it is PC these days not to have an opinion or, if you do, not to express it. Grey days indeed! |
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Boltar wrote:
Kat wrote in message ... In message , Jack Taylor writes "Kat" wrote in message ... I don't believe SP was referring to Clive as a troll but the person Clive was replying to... (One of the problems with 2D conversations) It doesn't help with me being half asleep whilst I'm reading through uk.r and u.t.l !!! ;-)) LOL! B2003 is your usual sort of LU-staff hater; cast from the CJG mould but lacking the elegant turn of phrase ;-) I don't hate LUL staff, in fact I don't even hate this guy though I believe he's a waste of space. What I do hate is the get-away-with-it mentality that seems to be prevalent. And judging by the fact that I've been called a troll (uk.transport.london speak for someone who actually had an opinion and doesn't just bleat along in time with the rest of the sheep) it seems that a lot of people on here have no problem with it. Which sums up Britain today. I haven't noticed anyone condoning the situation regarding this bloke. Management is paid to manage, people in all sorts of jobs everywhere take the ****. As I said earlier, if management were doing their job properly something would have been done. |
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"Boltar" wrote... I don't hate LUL staff, in fact I don't even hate this guy though I believe he's a waste of space. What I do hate is the get-away-with-it mentality that seems to be prevalent. Oh, come on. Everyone, everywhere, has done a sickie at some time in their lives. Big deal. What's so special about this guy that suddenly, for the first time iever, it becomes a bad thing? Why is it Ok for us to do it to our employers but not Ok for him to do it to LUL? I've been called a troll (uk.transport.london speak for someone who actually had an opinion and doesn't just bleat along in time with the rest of the sheep) Please, I've been around on various Usenet groups long enough to spot a troll when I see one. They're the same everywhere, not just this group. I've even enjoyed doing some trolling in the past, so I'm talking from experience here. And it's not just your opinion on the sicknote issue, it's other things too. E.g. your claim that people in Buckinghamshire shouldn't have a direct route to Watford Jn. because it isn't the fastest route from London. (Or something. I *still* don't understand what you were trying to say there.) You make a habit of posting various opinions that no-one in their right mind could share. Either you're stupid, or you're a deliberate troll. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you're not stupid. That's more than Clive was prepared to to give you. it seems that a lot of people on here have no problem with it. Which sums up Britain today. Would you have any problem with anyone working for another employer doing a sickie? Of course not. You've probably done it yourself. We all do it. So why the double standards in this case? What's so special that sickies suddenly become a bad thing when the employee just happens to work for LUL? But you can't answer that, can you? Why not? Because you *are* a troll, and you don't really believe the nonsense you're talking. You're just winding us up for fun. You might fool the others, but as an ex-troll myself, I can see right through you. And you're not even a very good troll. Sorry, but you're just not entertaining enough. Into the killfile with you... **PLONK** |
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"Jack Taylor" wrote... Whether or not I agree with you opinion(s) I wholeheartedly defend your right to express them. That's assuming that they really ARE his opinions in the first place. It's more likely Boltar's just a troll making up opinions to **** us off. Whining on about how you're being oppressed because your "opinions" aren't fashionable is the standard troll defence. (I should know, I used it myself back in my troll days.) |
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In article , Boltar
writes There are *plenty* of circumstances where one can be able to play squash yet be unable to do a job like train driving. Maybe there are , but he was claiming a dodgy ankle. Please do explain how he could play squash with a bad ankle but couldn't drive a train with one? Strangely enough, I'm not a doctor, so I can't give you definitive details. But I can well imagine that someone could play half an hour of squash *knowing that you can stop at any time* but not spend 3 hours driving a train *unable to stop*. -- Clive D.W. Feather | Home: Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is: |
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