On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 12:22:20 +0000, John Williamson wrote:
What's really going to **** them off is the new ULEZ that kicks in on
the date given, so anything earlier than Euro 6

Or Euro 4 for petrol.

will cost a fortune to
take in. It's also annoying transport companies, as using any lorry or
coach older than Euro 6 will cost £200 a day. The company I work for has
has to spend over two million quid to update our fleet to comply.

That's not annoying, that's fantastic news for the people that breath
the air in London[1]. I look forward to the improvement in air quality for
millions and the resultant improvement in health and healthcare savings.

[1] And the bits of not London that the vehicles also drive in.

On 12/02/2019 14:00, David Walters wrote:


That's not annoying, that's fantastic news for the people that breath
the air in London[1]. I look forward to the improvement in air quality for
millions and the resultant improvement in health and healthcare savings.

You won't notice any difference, and nor will the health services. Most
commercial vehicles going into the London ULEZ have been at the
appropriate Euro level for a long time now, and nobody seems to be
celebrating yet.

What people will notice is that it will cost more to deliver goods and
people to London, so Londoners will pay more for their groceries, and
there will be fewer tourists, leading to problems for the many
businesses that depend on them.



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Tciao for Now!

John.

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 14:18:46 +0000, John Williamson wrote:
Most
commercial vehicles going into the London ULEZ have been at the
appropriate Euro level for a long time now, and nobody seems to be
celebrating yet.

What people will notice is that it will cost more to deliver goods and
people to London, so Londoners will pay more for their groceries, and
there will be fewer tourists, leading to problems for the many
businesses that depend on them.

If most commercial vehicles don't need changing then delivery costs will
mostly stay the same and prices will mostly not increase (or if they do
it will not be a significant increase).

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 14:00:30 +0000
David Walters wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 12:22:20 +0000, John Williamson
wrote:
What's really going to **** them off is the new ULEZ that kicks in on
the date given, so anything earlier than Euro 6

Or Euro 4 for petrol.

will cost a fortune to
take in. It's also annoying transport companies, as using any lorry or
coach older than Euro 6 will cost £200 a day. The company I work for has
has to spend over two million quid to update our fleet to comply.

That's not annoying, that's fantastic news for the people that breath
the air in London[1]. I look forward to the improvement in air quality for
millions and the resultant improvement in health and healthcare savings.

Meanwhile all the extra CO2 from the manufacture of the replacement vehicles
chain will simple hasten climate change that little bit faster. I'll take
local pollution over global pollution any day. And a lot of the people whining
about air quality are the same people who install wood burning stoves in their
farrow and ball decorated living rooms.

On 12/02/2019 17:29, wrote:

Meanwhile all the extra CO2 from the manufacture of the replacement vehicles
chain will simple hasten climate change that little bit faster. I'll take
local pollution over global pollution any day. And a lot of the people whining
about air quality are the same people who install wood burning stoves in their
farrow and ball decorated living rooms.


Ah, well, the new Clean Air Act will sort those out. The first step will
be to ban the installation of new wood stoves that don't comply with the
emissions rules, as well as banning the retail sale of non-approved
solid fuels and unseasoned wood in many boroughs of London under powers
the Act grants to local authorities.

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Tciao for Now!

John.