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Piccadilly line extension to Terminal 5/Heathrow Express extension to T5
Boltar wrote:
"John Rowland" wrote in message ... "Ben Nunn" wrote in message ... But most, if not all of these are stations with a terminal facilitiy, so are not the same as the new T123 station at all. The number of trains departing and arriving each platform from Tooting Broadway, for example, is exactly the same - the number that leave empty in a southbound direction is equal to the number that arrive empty on the Northbound platform. Maybe you didn't get the message from M L Dickinson, but at Harlesden and Stonebridge Park there are about 50% more trains to London than there are from London. This is because the trains which terminate at Stonebridge Park run empty from Willesden Junction, due to LU not having any staff to perform the tipping-out duty at Stonebridge Park. Why can't the driver do it they they do elsewhere on the system? Because, without assistance from station staff, he has to walk the whole length of the train and back, checking each car and closing the doors, and this holds up following trains. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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Piccadilly line extension to Terminal 5/Heathrow Express extension to T5
"Richard J." wrote in message ...
Maybe you didn't get the message from M L Dickinson, but at Harlesden and Stonebridge Park there are about 50% more trains to London than there are from London. This is because the trains which terminate at Stonebridge Park run empty from Willesden Junction, due to LU not having any staff to perform the tipping-out duty at Stonebridge Park. Why can't the driver do it they they do elsewhere on the system? Because, without assistance from station staff, he has to walk the whole length of the train and back, checking each car and closing the doors, and this holds up following trains. Thats never bothered them on the piccadilly line. Many a time I've been tipped off at wood green to wait while the driver wanders down the train without any station staff around. Besides , isn't the driver responsible for the train so he has to do it anyway? B2003 |
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Piccadilly line extension to Terminal 5/Heathrow Express extension to T5
Boltar wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in message ... Maybe you didn't get the message from M L Dickinson, but at Harlesden and Stonebridge Park there are about 50% more trains to London than there are from London. This is because the trains which terminate at Stonebridge Park run empty from Willesden Junction, due to LU not having any staff to perform the tipping-out duty at Stonebridge Park. Why can't the driver do it they they do elsewhere on the system? Because, without assistance from station staff, he has to walk the whole length of the train and back, checking each car and closing the doors, and this holds up following trains. Thats never bothered them on the piccadilly line. Many a time I've been tipped off at wood green to wait while the driver wanders down the train without any station staff around. Besides , isn't the driver responsible for the train so he has to do it anyway? That's probably because Wood Green isn't a scheduled reversing point, and hence staff are not routinely available to support tipping out. It may be worth a slight delay to the eastbound service in order to plug a very long gap in the westbound. Re your last point, responsibility doesn't mean he has to do everything himself. He can accept an assurance from other qualified staff, in this and other cases. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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Piccadilly line extension to Terminal 5/Heathrow Express extension to T5
"Richard J." wrote in message
... Boltar wrote: "Richard J." wrote in message ... Because, without assistance from station staff, he has to walk the whole length of the train and back, checking each car and closing the doors, and this holds up following trains. Thats never bothered them on the piccadilly line. Many a time I've been tipped off at wood green to wait while the driver wanders down the train without any station staff around. That's probably because Wood Green isn't a scheduled reversing point, Also, LU would presumably be fined if they delayed Silverlink trains at Stonebridge Park, while this is not an issue at Wood Green. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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Piccadilly line extension to Terminal 5/Heathrow Express extension to T5
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writes Re your last point, responsibility doesn't mean he has to do everything himself. He can accept an assurance from other qualified staff, in this and other cases. Which he or she does at their own risk. -- Andrew Electronic communications can be altered and therefore the integrity of this communication can not be guaranteed. Views expressed in this communication are those of the author and not associations or companies I am involved with. |
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Piccadilly line extension to Terminal 5/Heathrow Express extension to T5
"Richard J." wrote in message ... Boltar wrote: "John Rowland" wrote in message ... "Ben Nunn" wrote in message ... But most, if not all of these are stations with a terminal facilitiy, so are not the same as the new T123 station at all. The number of trains departing and arriving each platform from Tooting Broadway, for example, is exactly the same - the number that leave empty in a southbound direction is equal to the number that arrive empty on the Northbound platform. Maybe you didn't get the message from M L Dickinson, but at Harlesden and Stonebridge Park there are about 50% more trains to London than there are from London. This is because the trains which terminate at Stonebridge Park run empty from Willesden Junction, due to LU not having any staff to perform the tipping-out duty at Stonebridge Park. Why can't the driver do it they they do elsewhere on the system? Because, without assistance from station staff, he has to walk the whole length of the train and back, checking each car and closing the doors, and this holds up following trains. In fact, Wood Green does have to have staff availible to assist with detrainments, a thing called an HMRI check takes place twice a day to make sure that they are. Of course the problem with Wood Green is that trains can be reversed there at very short notice so at times the driver may have tipped the train out before the word has got to the SA that he needs to be on the platform to assist. -- Cheers, Steve. If The Good Lord had meant for us to be fiscally prudent, He would not have given us the platinum credit card... Change colour to PC Plod's lights to reply. |
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