Am 19.07.2019 um 00:19 schrieb MissRiaElaine:
On 18/07/2019 22:32, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:

I have a landline installed but it’s never had a telephone connected
to it.
In the previous place I lived, I did have a telephone connected, and the
only calls I ever received were for previous users of that number.

If you have a landline, surely it's cheaper to use it for calls than a
mobile..? For us, it's still cheaper to use our landline than a mobile.
As I said, a mobile is an emergency device for us, 99.9% of the calls we
make can wait until we're home.

In Germany, this is not the caseany more. You can have a mobile
contract with free calls and SMS to all German numbers for €6 per month;
an land line with free calls to all German land lines and expensive
calls to German mobiles costs €20 per month. My mother-in-law now has a
mobile instead of a land line in her OAP home.

On 22/07/2019 10:16, Rolf Mantel wrote:
Am 19.07.2019 um 00:19 schrieb MissRiaElaine:
On 18/07/2019 22:32, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:

I have a landline installed but it’s never had a telephone connected
to it.
In the previous place I lived, I did have a telephone connected, and the
only calls I ever received were for previous users of that number.

If you have a landline, surely it's cheaper to use it for calls than a
mobile..? For us, it's still cheaper to use our landline than a
mobile. As I said, a mobile is an emergency device for us, 99.9% of
the calls we make can wait until we're home.

In Germany, this is not the caseany more.Â* You can have a mobile
contract with free calls and SMS to all German numbers for €6 per month;
an land line with free calls to all German land lines and expensive
calls to German mobiles costs €20 per month.Â* My mother-in-law now has a
mobile instead of a land line in her OAP home.

So how do you get broadband..? *Reliable and fast* mobile broadband is
still some way off, certainly here in the UK.


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MissRiaElaine Wrote in message:
calls to German mobiles costs ?20 per month. My mother-in-law now has a
mobile instead of a land line in her OAP home.
So how do you get broadband..? *Reliable and fast* mobile broadband is still some way off, certainly here in the UK.

That's because the UK has ****ing terrible infrastructure.

I just did a quick speedtest.net test of my mobile broadband:

https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/5143807298


Unfortunately the UK population seems more interested in blaming
foreigners and electing clowns than actually doing anything about
said woeful infrastructure, so ¯\_(?)_/¯.

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On 23/07/2019 17:27, Clank wrote:
MissRiaElaine Wrote in message:
calls to German mobiles costs ?20 per month. My mother-in-law now has a
mobile instead of a land line in her OAP home.
So how do you get broadband..? *Reliable and fast* mobile broadband is still some way off, certainly here in the UK.

That's because the UK has ****ing terrible infrastructure.

I just did a quick speedtest.net test of my mobile broadband:

https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/5143807298


Unfortunately the UK population seems more interested in blaming
foreigners and electing clowns than actually doing anything about
said woeful infrastructure, so ¯\_(?)_/¯.


23-07-2019 16:38:46 (GMT) 10.4 Mbps 0.5 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:54:27 (GMT) 8.2 Mbps 0.5 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:52:52 (GMT) 8.0 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:51:23 (GMT) 3.1 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:49:57 (GMT) 9.1 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:41:25 (GMT) 6.1 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:38:20 (GMT) 7.7 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:23:15 (GMT) 1.3 Mbps 0.4 Mbps EE

This is my crap broadband this afternoon.

wrote:
On 23/07/2019 17:27, Clank wrote:
MissRiaElaine Wrote in message:
calls to German mobiles costs ?20 per month. My mother-in-law now has a
mobile instead of a land line in her OAP home.
So how do you get broadband..? *Reliable and fast* mobile broadband is
still some way off, certainly here in the UK.

That's because the UK has ****ing terrible infrastructure.

I just did a quick speedtest.net test of my mobile broadband:

https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/5143807298


Unfortunately the UK population seems more interested in blaming
foreigners and electing clowns than actually doing anything about
said woeful infrastructure, so ¯\_(?)_/¯.


23-07-2019 16:38:46 (GMT) 10.4 Mbps 0.5 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:54:27 (GMT) 8.2 Mbps 0.5 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:52:52 (GMT) 8.0 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:51:23 (GMT) 3.1 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:49:57 (GMT) 9.1 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:41:25 (GMT) 6.1 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:38:20 (GMT) 7.7 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:23:15 (GMT) 1.3 Mbps 0.4 Mbps EE

This is my crap broadband this afternoon.


Is that mobile (4G), WiFi or wired data?

On 23/07/2019 22:21, Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On 23/07/2019 17:27, Clank wrote:
MissRiaElaine Wrote in message:
calls to German mobiles costs ?20 per month. My mother-in-law now has a
mobile instead of a land line in her OAP home.
So how do you get broadband..? *Reliable and fast* mobile broadband is
still some way off, certainly here in the UK.

That's because the UK has ****ing terrible infrastructure.

I just did a quick speedtest.net test of my mobile broadband:

https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/5143807298


Unfortunately the UK population seems more interested in blaming
foreigners and electing clowns than actually doing anything about
said woeful infrastructure, so ¯\_(?)_/¯.


23-07-2019 16:38:46 (GMT) 10.4 Mbps 0.5 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:54:27 (GMT) 8.2 Mbps 0.5 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:52:52 (GMT) 8.0 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:51:23 (GMT) 3.1 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:49:57 (GMT) 9.1 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:41:25 (GMT) 6.1 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:38:20 (GMT) 7.7 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:23:15 (GMT) 1.3 Mbps 0.4 Mbps EE

This is my crap broadband this afternoon.


Is that mobile (4G), WiFi or wired data?

Sorry. Wired internet.

The amazing thing is I've managed to persuade EE something is wrong!

wrote:
On 23/07/2019 22:21, Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On 23/07/2019 17:27, Clank wrote:
MissRiaElaine Wrote in message:
calls to German mobiles costs ?20 per month. My mother-in-law now has a
mobile instead of a land line in her OAP home.
So how do you get broadband..? *Reliable and fast* mobile broadband is
still some way off, certainly here in the UK.

That's because the UK has ****ing terrible infrastructure.

I just did a quick speedtest.net test of my mobile broadband:

https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/5143807298


Unfortunately the UK population seems more interested in blaming
foreigners and electing clowns than actually doing anything about
said woeful infrastructure, so ¯\_(?)_/¯.


23-07-2019 16:38:46 (GMT) 10.4 Mbps 0.5 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:54:27 (GMT) 8.2 Mbps 0.5 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:52:52 (GMT) 8.0 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:51:23 (GMT) 3.1 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:49:57 (GMT) 9.1 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:41:25 (GMT) 6.1 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:38:20 (GMT) 7.7 Mbps 0.6 Mbps EE
23-07-2019 15:23:15 (GMT) 1.3 Mbps 0.4 Mbps EE

This is my crap broadband this afternoon.


Is that mobile (4G), WiFi or wired data?

Sorry. Wired internet.

The amazing thing is I've managed to persuade EE something is wrong!


Is that ADSL or VDSL (ie, FTTC)? It would be mediocre for the former, but
terrible for the latter.

For a period I was getting similar poor performance from my FTTC line. I
kept complaining, and each time they sent an Openreach technician who
usually got me back up to 50Mbps download/10 upload, but it didn't last.
Finally, I told BT that I'd had enough, and demanded that they release me
from my contract. They reluctantly agreed, and I've changed ISP. I've now
got my final BT bill with the hefty cancellation charge, which I hope they
will cancel as promised.

With my new ISP, I now get completely consistent speeds on a wired
connection (it's more variable on WiFi). You probably don't want to look at
the speeds I get now…
https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/48239986081/in/dateposted-friend/lightbox/

If I want faster, it's readily available, with no hardware changes, but the
price goes up. However, I really don't think I have any conceivable need
for more.