In message , at 14:15:27 on Sun, 8 Sep 2019,
Graeme Wall remarked:
On 08/09/2019 13:06, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:42:15 on Sun, 8 Sep
2019, Recliner remarked:

It'll be interesting to see how Oxford's ZEV zone gets on. There's
bound
to be exceptions (ever seen a ZEV Fire Engine?) the question will be how
far the exceptions will extend. Especially buses, where a ZEV fleet
might be prohibitively expensive.

I don't know much about Oxford's bus routes, but would it be possible to
have a ZEV fleet operating in and just outside the ZEV zone,
connecting to
conventional hybrid buses operating from the edge of the zone?
The proposed ZEV zone is actually quite small. Not a lot bigger than
a traditional pedestrianised town centre. It probably doesn't include
any bus routes.

Doesn't Oxford have a pedestrianised centre that is accessible by bus?

You can get to the edge of it, but it's small enough that you can walk
the rest of the way. Not quite the same as even the Congestion Charge
Zone (if only ZEVs are allowed inside).

London already has ZEV buses that only operate in the centre, and I
suppose
there could be a new fleet of PHEV buses with a limited ZEV range that's
enough to cover a central ZEV zone (rather like the new taxis).
Where do you put the transfer bus stations.

If they are hybrids you don't have to have transfer stations.

Only if they can cover the whole of inside the N/S Circular on battery,
once the zone has extended that far.
--
Roland Perry

On 08/09/2019 16:03, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:15:27 on Sun, 8 Sep 2019,
Graeme Wall remarked:
On 08/09/2019 13:06, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:42:15 on Sun, 8 Sep
2019,Â* Recliner remarked:

It'll be interesting to see how Oxford's ZEV zone gets on. There's
bound
to be exceptions (ever seen a ZEV Fire Engine?) the question will
be how
far the exceptions will extend. Especially buses, where a ZEV fleet
might be prohibitively expensive.

I don't know much about Oxford's bus routes, but would it be
possible to
have a ZEV fleet operating in and just outside the ZEV zone,
connecting to
conventional hybrid buses operating from the edge of the zone?
Â*The proposed ZEV zone is actually quite small. Not a lot bigger than
aÂ* traditional pedestrianised town centre. It probably doesn't
include anyÂ* bus routes.

Doesn't Oxford have a pedestrianised centre that is accessible by bus?

You can get to the edge of it, but it's small enough that you can walk
the rest of the way. Not quite the same as even the Congestion Charge
Zone (if only ZEVs are allowed inside).

Wasn't there a fuss some years back because a car tried to follow a bus
into the pedestrian area and got thrown aside by the rising pillar and
nearly hit a pedestrian nearby?


--
Graeme Wall
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In message , at 16:23:58 on Sun, 8 Sep
2019, Graeme Wall remarked:

Doesn't Oxford have a pedestrianised centre that is accessible by bus?

You can get to the edge of it, but it's small enough that you can
walk the rest of the way. Not quite the same as even the Congestion
Charge Zone (if only ZEVs are allowed inside).

Wasn't there a fuss some years back because a car tried to follow a bus
into the pedestrian area and got thrown aside by the rising pillar and
nearly hit a pedestrian nearby?

Not that I recall. But other cities have.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:15:27 on Sun, 8 Sep 2019,
Graeme Wall remarked:
On 08/09/2019 13:06, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:42:15 on Sun, 8 Sep
2019, Recliner remarked:

It'll be interesting to see how Oxford's ZEV zone gets on. There's
bound
to be exceptions (ever seen a ZEV Fire Engine?) the question will be how
far the exceptions will extend. Especially buses, where a ZEV fleet
might be prohibitively expensive.

I don't know much about Oxford's bus routes, but would it be possible to
have a ZEV fleet operating in and just outside the ZEV zone,
connecting to
conventional hybrid buses operating from the edge of the zone?
The proposed ZEV zone is actually quite small. Not a lot bigger than
a traditional pedestrianised town centre. It probably doesn't include
any bus routes.

Doesn't Oxford have a pedestrianised centre that is accessible by bus?

You can get to the edge of it, but it's small enough that you can walk
the rest of the way. Not quite the same as even the Congestion Charge
Zone (if only ZEVs are allowed inside).

London already has ZEV buses that only operate in the centre, and I
suppose
there could be a new fleet of PHEV buses with a limited ZEV range that's
enough to cover a central ZEV zone (rather like the new taxis).
Where do you put the transfer bus stations.

If they are hybrids you don't have to have transfer stations.

Only if they can cover the whole of inside the N/S Circular on battery,
once the zone has extended that far.

The ZEV zone will be far smaller than that, at least for the foreseeable
future.