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Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december-
2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". -- Roland Perry |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47:19 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote: https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december- 2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". That must be the most geographically confusing part of the map ever! A tourist might well think that Reading was a mere stroll from Northolt. Anyway, that's a reminder for me to try out my Freedom pass on the new route in about 10 days. |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
"Recliner" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47:19 +0000, Roland Perry wrote: https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december- 2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". That must be the most geographically confusing part of the map ever! A tourist might well think that Reading was a mere stroll from Northolt. Anyway, that's a reminder for me to try out my Freedom pass on the new route in about 10 days. even though I know that it's supposed to be valid The freedom pass travel map doesn't appear to be updated to include it tiom |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
tim... wrote:
"Recliner" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47:19 +0000, Roland Perry wrote: https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december- 2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". That must be the most geographically confusing part of the map ever! A tourist might well think that Reading was a mere stroll from Northolt. Anyway, that's a reminder for me to try out my Freedom pass on the new route in about 10 days. even though I know that it's supposed to be valid The freedom pass travel map doesn't appear to be updated to include it Well, they won't be valid before the 15th, so it would be misleading to put out the new map before then. I wonder how long it'll take them to get it out after then? |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47:19 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote: https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december- 2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". Apology accepted, I don't think it is! The map is getting ever more 'who runs it' than 'what is it', and to have Reading but not Thameslink or Surbiton (of course) is ridiculous. It should be a map of London's frequent rail services, extended to reasonable outlying places like Shenfield, Watford, Dartford and Epsom and that's about it. There have been maps like that, but I think this should be the standard. Infrequent lines and stations could be shown differently to avoid over-complication. Richard. |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
Richard wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47:19 +0000, Roland Perry wrote: https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december- 2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". Apology accepted, I don't think it is! The map is getting ever more 'who runs it' than 'what is it', and to have Reading but not Thameslink or Surbiton (of course) is ridiculous. It should be a map of London's frequent rail services, extended to reasonable outlying places like Shenfield, Watford, Dartford and Epsom and that's about it. There have been maps like that, but I think this should be the standard. Infrequent lines and stations could be shown differently to avoid over-complication. Yes, this map should be called the TfL trains map (obviously not TfL Rail, as that's already used). It's crazy that it ignores the GN Moorgate line and Thameslink. But there is a more complete map available: https://londonmap360.com/carte/pdf/en/london-rail-map.pdf I'm not sure how often this is updated. |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
On 04/12/2019 22:20, Recliner wrote:
Richard wrote: On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47:19 +0000, Roland Perry wrote: https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december- 2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". Apology accepted, I don't think it is! The map is getting ever more 'who runs it' than 'what is it', and to have Reading but not Thameslink or Surbiton (of course) is ridiculous. It should be a map of London's frequent rail services, extended to reasonable outlying places like Shenfield, Watford, Dartford and Epsom and that's about it. There have been maps like that, but I think this should be the standard. Infrequent lines and stations could be shown differently to avoid over-complication. Yes, this map should be called the TfL trains map (obviously not TfL Rail, as that's already used). It's crazy that it ignores the GN Moorgate line and Thameslink. But there is a more complete map available: https://londonmap360.com/carte/pdf/en/london-rail-map.pdf I'm not sure how often this is updated. The tube map shows the Dangleway, so it's not just a rail map. -- Basil Jet recently enjoyed listening to Sonic Youth - 1985 - Bad Moon Rising |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
Basil Jet wrote:
On 04/12/2019 22:20, Recliner wrote: Richard wrote: On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47:19 +0000, Roland Perry wrote: https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december- 2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". Apology accepted, I don't think it is! The map is getting ever more 'who runs it' than 'what is it', and to have Reading but not Thameslink or Surbiton (of course) is ridiculous. It should be a map of London's frequent rail services, extended to reasonable outlying places like Shenfield, Watford, Dartford and Epsom and that's about it. There have been maps like that, but I think this should be the standard. Infrequent lines and stations could be shown differently to avoid over-complication. Yes, this map should be called the TfL trains map (obviously not TfL Rail, as that's already used). It's crazy that it ignores the GN Moorgate line and Thameslink. But there is a more complete map available: https://londonmap360.com/carte/pdf/en/london-rail-map.pdf I'm not sure how often this is updated. The tube map shows the Dangleway, so it's not just a rail map. But not the buses, so it's not all TfL services either. |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
Basil Jet wrote:
On 04/12/2019 22:20, Recliner wrote: Richard wrote: On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47:19 +0000, Roland Perry wrote: https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december- 2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". Apology accepted, I don't think it is! The map is getting ever more 'who runs it' than 'what is it', and to have Reading but not Thameslink or Surbiton (of course) is ridiculous. It should be a map of London's frequent rail services, extended to reasonable outlying places like Shenfield, Watford, Dartford and Epsom and that's about it. There have been maps like that, but I think this should be the standard. Infrequent lines and stations could be shown differently to avoid over-complication. Yes, this map should be called the TfL trains map (obviously not TfL Rail, as that's already used). It's crazy that it ignores the GN Moorgate line and Thameslink. But there is a more complete map available: https://londonmap360.com/carte/pdf/en/london-rail-map.pdf I'm not sure how often this is updated. The tube map shows the Dangleway, so it's not just a rail map. Ghosts of the American influence from the early years of the Combine still at work . Tramlink and its routes are shown and Americans call Cable Cars Aerial Tramways. GH |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
tim... wrote:
"Recliner" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47:19 +0000, Roland Perry wrote: https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december- 2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". That must be the most geographically confusing part of the map ever! A tourist might well think that Reading was a mere stroll from Northolt. Anyway, that's a reminder for me to try out my Freedom pass on the new route in about 10 days. even though I know that it's supposed to be valid The freedom pass travel map doesn't appear to be updated to include it https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2019/september/tfl-rail-to-operate-services-to-reading-from-15-december |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 09:59:42 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote:
Basil Jet wrote: I've always thought the Lea should be shown on the tube map. It imposes itself on travellers even more than the Thames does above their confluence. Didn't TfL remove the Thames from the Tube map for a while? Yes, in 2009. http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/london/h...00/8259435.stm |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
On 04/12/2019 11:47, Roland Perry wrote:
https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december- 2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". The only thing I regard as the "tube" are the deep level tunnels. -- Ria in Aberdeen [Send address is invalid, use sipsoup at gmail dot com to reply direct] |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 04/12/2019 11:47, Roland Perry wrote: https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december- 2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". The only thing I regard as the "tube" are the deep level tunnels. We know, as you've told us before. But most people who actually use the system, and TfL itself, now generally call the whole LU system 'The Tube'. Presumably you'd regard Crossrail as a Tube line? It will run through deep bored tunnels under London, uses the same ticketing system, and has similar style trains. All of its central London stations are shared with LU. |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
On 05/12/2019 22:34, Recliner wrote:
MissRiaElaine wrote: On 04/12/2019 11:47, Roland Perry wrote: https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december- 2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". The only thing I regard as the "tube" are the deep level tunnels. We know, as you've told us before. But most people who actually use the system, and TfL itself, now generally call the whole LU system 'The Tube'. Doesn't make them right. -- Ria in Aberdeen [Send address is invalid, use sipsoup at gmail dot com to reply direct] |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 05/12/2019 22:34, Recliner wrote: MissRiaElaine wrote: On 04/12/2019 11:47, Roland Perry wrote: https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december- 2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". The only thing I regard as the "tube" are the deep level tunnels. We know, as you've told us before. But most people who actually use the system, and TfL itself, now generally call the whole LU system 'The Tube'. Doesn't make them right. You have a particular snapshot of history. It's no more right or wrong than any other snapshot of history. But it's out of line with the present. I'd suggest that the millions of contemporary Londoners outvote you. |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
On 05/12/2019 23:55, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 05/12/2019 22:34, Recliner wrote: MissRiaElaine wrote: On 04/12/2019 11:47, Roland Perry wrote: https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december- 2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". The only thing I regard as the "tube" are the deep level tunnels. We know, as you've told us before. But most people who actually use the system, and TfL itself, now generally call the whole LU system 'The Tube'. Doesn't make them right. So the organisation which owns and runs the tube doesn't know what its names are, and neither do any of the London media or the London-based national media, but a retired bus driver in Aberdeen does. -- Basil Jet recently enjoyed listening to Einstürzende Neubauten - 1981 - Kollaps |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
On 06/12/2019 04:03, Basil Jet wrote:
So the organisation which owns and runs the tube doesn't know what its names are, and neither do any of the London media or the London-based national media, but a retired bus driver in Aberdeen does. A retired bus driver who grew up in London using the system, yes. -- Ria in Aberdeen [Send address is invalid, use sipsoup at gmail dot com to reply direct] |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
tim... wrote:
"Recliner" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47:19 +0000, Roland Perry wrote: https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december- 2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". That must be the most geographically confusing part of the map ever! A tourist might well think that Reading was a mere stroll from Northolt. Anyway, that's a reminder for me to try out my Freedom pass on the new route in about 10 days. even though I know that it's supposed to be valid The freedom pass travel map doesn't appear to be updated to include it The map has now been updated: https://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/download/file/fid/25897 They've managed to do it without mangling the geography too much (apart from river crossings). |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
Op 4-12-2019 om 23:20 schreef Recliner:
Richard wrote: On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47, Roland Perry wrote: https://londonist.com/london/transport/new-tube-map-december-2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". Apology accepted, I don't think it is! The map is getting ever more 'who runs it' than 'what is it', and to have Reading but not Thameslink or Surbiton (of course) is ridiculous. It should be a map of London's frequent rail services, extended to reasonable outlying places like Shenfield, Watford, Dartford and Epsom and that's about it. There have been maps like that, but I think this should be the standard. Infrequent lines and stations could be shown differently to avoid over-complication. Yes, this map should be called the TfL trains map (obviously not TfL Rail, as that's already used). It's crazy that it ignores the GN Moorgate line and Thameslink. But there is a more complete map available: https://londonmap360.com/carte/pdf/en/london-rail-map.pdf I'm not sure how often this is updated. When needed. Probably each year. You showed the december 2013 version. Here is the december 2019 version (with Reading on the map): http://content.tfl.gov.uk/standard-tube-map.pdf or the "large print": http://content.tfl.gov.uk/large-print-tube-map.pdf These maps and other you can find he https://tfl.gov.uk/maps/track/tube including the Night Tube and London Overground Map Rink |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
Rink wrote:
Op 4-12-2019 om 23:20 schreef Recliner: Richard wrote: On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47, Roland Perry wrote: https://londonist.com/london/transport/new-tube-map-december-2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". Apology accepted, I don't think it is! The map is getting ever more 'who runs it' than 'what is it', and to have Reading but not Thameslink or Surbiton (of course) is ridiculous. It should be a map of London's frequent rail services, extended to reasonable outlying places like Shenfield, Watford, Dartford and Epsom and that's about it. There have been maps like that, but I think this should be the standard. Infrequent lines and stations could be shown differently to avoid over-complication. Yes, this map should be called the TfL trains map (obviously not TfL Rail, as that's already used). It's crazy that it ignores the GN Moorgate line and Thameslink. But there is a more complete map available: https://londonmap360.com/carte/pdf/en/london-rail-map.pdf I'm not sure how often this is updated. When needed. Probably each year. You showed the december 2013 version. Is there a more up to date version? Here is the december 2019 version (with Reading on the map): http://content.tfl.gov.uk/standard-tube-map.pdf That's a different map. or the "large print": http://content.tfl.gov.uk/large-print-tube-map.pdf These maps and other you can find he https://tfl.gov.uk/maps/track/tube You seem to be confused. Tube maps are not the same as rail maps. What you've linked to is the new version of a completely different map. including the Night Tube and London Overground Map Rink |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
Op 11-1-2020 om 2:54 schreef Recliner:
Rink wrote: Op 4-12-2019 om 23:20 schreef Recliner: Richard wrote: On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47, Roland Perry wrote: https://londonist.com/london/transport/new-tube-map-december-2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". Apology accepted, I don't think it is! The map is getting ever more 'who runs it' than 'what is it', and to have Reading but not Thameslink or Surbiton (of course) is ridiculous. It should be a map of London's frequent rail services, extended to reasonable outlying places like Shenfield, Watford, Dartford and Epsom and that's about it. There have been maps like that, but I think this should be the standard. Infrequent lines and stations could be shown differently to avoid over-complication. Yes, this map should be called the TfL trains map (obviously not TfL Rail, as that's already used). It's crazy that it ignores the GN Moorgate line and Thameslink. But there is a more complete map available: https://londonmap360.com/carte/pdf/en/london-rail-map.pdf I'm not sure how often this is updated. When needed. Probably each year. You showed the december 2013 version. Is there a more up to date version? Here is the december 2019 version (with Reading on the map): http://content.tfl.gov.uk/standard-tube-map.pdf That's a different map. or the "large print": http://content.tfl.gov.uk/large-print-tube-map.pdf These maps and other you can find he https://tfl.gov.uk/maps/track/tube You seem to be confused. Tube maps are not the same as rail maps. What you've linked to is the new version of a completely different map. including the Night Tube and London Overground Map Rink Recliner, You're right. I linked to another map. Here is the december 2019 version of the map you linked to: http://content.tfl.gov.uk/london-rail-and-tube-services-map.pdf On this map there are two lines from Paddington to Reading: - TfL Rail - Great Western Railway Rink |
Reading Is Now On The Tube Map
Rink wrote:
Op 11-1-2020 om 2:54 schreef Recliner: Rink wrote: Op 4-12-2019 om 23:20 schreef Recliner: Richard wrote: On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47, Roland Perry wrote: https://londonist.com/london/transport/new-tube-map-december-2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube". Apology accepted, I don't think it is! The map is getting ever more 'who runs it' than 'what is it', and to have Reading but not Thameslink or Surbiton (of course) is ridiculous. It should be a map of London's frequent rail services, extended to reasonable outlying places like Shenfield, Watford, Dartford and Epsom and that's about it. There have been maps like that, but I think this should be the standard. Infrequent lines and stations could be shown differently to avoid over-complication. Yes, this map should be called the TfL trains map (obviously not TfL Rail, as that's already used). It's crazy that it ignores the GN Moorgate line and Thameslink. But there is a more complete map available: https://londonmap360.com/carte/pdf/en/london-rail-map.pdf I'm not sure how often this is updated. When needed. Probably each year. You showed the december 2013 version. Is there a more up to date version? Here is the december 2019 version (with Reading on the map): http://content.tfl.gov.uk/standard-tube-map.pdf That's a different map. or the "large print": http://content.tfl.gov.uk/large-print-tube-map.pdf These maps and other you can find he https://tfl.gov.uk/maps/track/tube You seem to be confused. Tube maps are not the same as rail maps. What you've linked to is the new version of a completely different map. including the Night Tube and London Overground Map Rink Recliner, You're right. I linked to another map. Here is the december 2019 version of the map you linked to: http://content.tfl.gov.uk/london-rail-and-tube-services-map.pdf On this map there are two lines from Paddington to Reading: - TfL Rail - Great Western Railway Yes, and that's correct. |
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