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Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube".
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On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47:19 +0000, Roland Perry
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https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december-
2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading

Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube".


That must be the most geographically confusing part of the map ever! A
tourist might well think that Reading was a mere stroll from Northolt.

Anyway, that's a reminder for me to try out my Freedom pass on the new
route in about 10 days.
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On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47:19 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december-
2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading

Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube".


That must be the most geographically confusing part of the map ever! A
tourist might well think that Reading was a mere stroll from Northolt.

Anyway, that's a reminder for me to try out my Freedom pass on the new
route in about 10 days.


even though I know that it's supposed to be valid

The freedom pass travel map doesn't appear to be updated to include it

tiom



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"Recliner" wrote in message
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On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47:19 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december-
2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading

Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube".


That must be the most geographically confusing part of the map ever! A
tourist might well think that Reading was a mere stroll from Northolt.

Anyway, that's a reminder for me to try out my Freedom pass on the new
route in about 10 days.


even though I know that it's supposed to be valid

The freedom pass travel map doesn't appear to be updated to include it


Well, they won't be valid before the 15th, so it would be misleading to put
out the new map before then. I wonder how long it'll take them to get it
out after then?

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On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47:19 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december-
2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading

Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube".


Apology accepted, I don't think it is! The map is getting ever more
'who runs it' than 'what is it', and to have Reading but not
Thameslink or Surbiton (of course) is ridiculous. It should be a map
of London's frequent rail services, extended to reasonable outlying
places like Shenfield, Watford, Dartford and Epsom and that's about
it. There have been maps like that, but I think this should be the
standard. Infrequent lines and stations could be shown differently to
avoid over-complication.

Richard.


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Richard wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47:19 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december-
2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading

Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube".


Apology accepted, I don't think it is! The map is getting ever more
'who runs it' than 'what is it', and to have Reading but not
Thameslink or Surbiton (of course) is ridiculous. It should be a map
of London's frequent rail services, extended to reasonable outlying
places like Shenfield, Watford, Dartford and Epsom and that's about
it. There have been maps like that, but I think this should be the
standard. Infrequent lines and stations could be shown differently to
avoid over-complication.


Yes, this map should be called the TfL trains map (obviously not TfL Rail,
as that's already used). It's crazy that it ignores the GN Moorgate line
and Thameslink. But there is a more complete map available:
https://londonmap360.com/carte/pdf/en/london-rail-map.pdf

I'm not sure how often this is updated.



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On 04/12/2019 22:20, Recliner wrote:
Richard wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47:19 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december-
2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading

Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube".


Apology accepted, I don't think it is! The map is getting ever more
'who runs it' than 'what is it', and to have Reading but not
Thameslink or Surbiton (of course) is ridiculous. It should be a map
of London's frequent rail services, extended to reasonable outlying
places like Shenfield, Watford, Dartford and Epsom and that's about
it. There have been maps like that, but I think this should be the
standard. Infrequent lines and stations could be shown differently to
avoid over-complication.


Yes, this map should be called the TfL trains map (obviously not TfL Rail,
as that's already used). It's crazy that it ignores the GN Moorgate line
and Thameslink. But there is a more complete map available:
https://londonmap360.com/carte/pdf/en/london-rail-map.pdf

I'm not sure how often this is updated.




The tube map shows the Dangleway, so it's not just a rail map.

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Basil Jet wrote:
On 04/12/2019 22:20, Recliner wrote:
Richard wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47:19 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december-
2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading

Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube".

Apology accepted, I don't think it is! The map is getting ever more
'who runs it' than 'what is it', and to have Reading but not
Thameslink or Surbiton (of course) is ridiculous. It should be a map
of London's frequent rail services, extended to reasonable outlying
places like Shenfield, Watford, Dartford and Epsom and that's about
it. There have been maps like that, but I think this should be the
standard. Infrequent lines and stations could be shown differently to
avoid over-complication.


Yes, this map should be called the TfL trains map (obviously not TfL Rail,
as that's already used). It's crazy that it ignores the GN Moorgate line
and Thameslink. But there is a more complete map available:
https://londonmap360.com/carte/pdf/en/london-rail-map.pdf

I'm not sure how often this is updated.




The tube map shows the Dangleway, so it's not just a rail map.


But not the buses, so it's not all TfL services either.

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Basil Jet wrote:
On 04/12/2019 22:20, Recliner wrote:
Richard wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47:19 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december-
2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading

Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube".

Apology accepted, I don't think it is! The map is getting ever more
'who runs it' than 'what is it', and to have Reading but not
Thameslink or Surbiton (of course) is ridiculous. It should be a map
of London's frequent rail services, extended to reasonable outlying
places like Shenfield, Watford, Dartford and Epsom and that's about
it. There have been maps like that, but I think this should be the
standard. Infrequent lines and stations could be shown differently to
avoid over-complication.


Yes, this map should be called the TfL trains map (obviously not TfL Rail,
as that's already used). It's crazy that it ignores the GN Moorgate line
and Thameslink. But there is a more complete map available:
https://londonmap360.com/carte/pdf/en/london-rail-map.pdf

I'm not sure how often this is updated.




The tube map shows the Dangleway, so it's not just a rail map.


Ghosts of the American influence from the early years of the Combine still
at work .
Tramlink and its routes are shown and Americans call Cable Cars Aerial
Tramways.


GH

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tim... wrote:


"Recliner" wrote in message
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On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:47:19 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

https://londonist.com/london/transpo...-map-december-
2019-crossrail-elizabeth-line-reading

Apologies to those who don't regard TfL Reading services as "The Tube".


That must be the most geographically confusing part of the map ever! A
tourist might well think that Reading was a mere stroll from Northolt.

Anyway, that's a reminder for me to try out my Freedom pass on the new
route in about 10 days.


even though I know that it's supposed to be valid

The freedom pass travel map doesn't appear to be updated to include it


https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2019/september/tfl-rail-to-operate-services-to-reading-from-15-december



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