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Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 09/03/2020 12:50, Recliner wrote: Like cigarettes, beer is something that you have to aquire a taste for because its so digusting. I never bothered. I like both, although I was forced to give up smoking due to price, not for any other reason. I still drink occasionally, but again price has an effect. Forcing people to give up what they enjoy by pricing them out of the market achieves little or nothing except raising tax revenue from the wealthy, but I'd better shut up or I'll get too political even for this group. Just to avoid confusion, it was Boltar (Neil Robertson) who said he found beer disgusting, not me. I certainly don't! And, unlike Neil, I do go to pubs. |
Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
On 09/03/2020 15:14, Recliner wrote:
Just to avoid confusion, it was Boltar (Neil Robertson) who said he found beer disgusting, not me. I certainly don't! And, unlike Neil, I do go to pubs. Sorry, it's difficult to know who said what sometimes on here, what with all the quoting. -- Ria in Aberdeen [Send address is invalid, use sipsoup at gmail dot com to reply direct] |
Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 09/03/2020 15:14, Recliner wrote: Just to avoid confusion, it was Boltar (Neil Robertson) who said he found beer disgusting, not me. I certainly don't! And, unlike Neil, I do go to pubs. Sorry, it's difficult to know who said what sometimes on here, what with all the quoting. I was quoting back to him his remark from 2018, after he denied all knowledge of making it. |
Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 12:50:21 -0000 (UTC)
Billy No Mates wrote: wrote: Have you forgotten already? So it would seem. Do enlighten me. It was almost two years ago, so no doubt your memory has faded: Thats nice. I'll ask again - when did I say I didn't visit pubs? In fact its pretty clear in that post that I do and FWIW I generally have a coffee. Just in case your senile old brain doesn't realise, its not 1970 anymore, pubs serve non alcoholic drinks and many also serve food. So toddle off and find the post where I said I never enter pubs or be a big boy and admit you've had yet another of your many senior moments. |
Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
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On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 12:50:21 -0000 (UTC) Billy No Mates wrote: wrote: Have you forgotten already? So it would seem. Do enlighten me. It was almost two years ago, so no doubt your memory has faded: Thats nice. I'll ask again - when did I say I didn't visit pubs? In fact its pretty clear in that post that I do and FWIW I generally have a coffee. Just in case your senile old brain doesn't realise, its not 1970 anymore, pubs serve non alcoholic drinks and many also serve food. So toddle off and find the post where I said I never enter pubs or be a big boy and admit you've had yet another of your many senior moments. Read that thread again: you obviously seldom visit a pub. |
Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
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Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
In message , at 19:17:06 on Mon, 9 Mar
2020, MissRiaElaine remarked: Ah online "friends". Not the same thing at all. Not the same, but to me as equally a friend as someone who lives locally. I can pick up the phone and call them, The expression "online friend" has become a bit devalued over the years, but I try to stick to only people I have earlier met in person. As a bit of a social butterfly at conferences, that's several hundred. (More than 600 on Linked-in, 250 on Facebook, and 500 Twitter followers although they are the least-curated) Both Facebook and Linked-In try to nag one into befriending strangers (based on second-order connections as well as pure spammers). I'm prepared to accept a few well-qualified persons who have also gone to the trouble of phoning me, otherwise only people I have actually met. if I feel so inclined and have made myself look reasonably presentable, I can have a video call with them. That's a whole new can of worms. A bit like the apocryphal TV news presenter with no trousers on under the desk. -- Roland Perry |
Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
On 09/03/2020 20:01, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 19:17:06 on Mon, 9 Mar 2020, MissRiaElaine remarked: Â*Ah online "friends". Not the same thing at all. Not the same, but to me as equally a friend as someone who lives locally. I can pick up the phone and call them, The expression "online friend" has become a bit devalued over the years, but I try to stick to only people I have earlier met in person. As a bit of a social butterfly at conferences, that's several hundred. (More than 600 on Linked-in, 250 on Facebook, and 500 Twitter followers Â*although they are the least-curated) Both Facebook and Linked-In try to nag one into befriending strangers (based on second-order connections as well as pure spammers). I'm prepared to accept a few well-qualified persons who have also gone to the trouble of phoning me, otherwise only people I have actually met. if I feel so inclined and have made myself look reasonably presentable, I can have a video call with them. That's a whole new can of worms. A bit like the apocryphal TV news presenter with no trousers on under the desk. I don't mean so-called "friends" on FarceBuke or Twitface, the people I consider friends are those with whom I share a common interest and can speak to on the phone. And I have no wish to know if you are currently wearing trousers or not..!!! -- Ria in Aberdeen [Send address is invalid, use sipsoup at gmail dot com to reply direct] |
Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 19:14:21 -0000 (UTC)
Billy No Mates wrote: wrote: On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 12:50:21 -0000 (UTC) Billy No Mates wrote: wrote: Have you forgotten already? So it would seem. Do enlighten me. It was almost two years ago, so no doubt your memory has faded: Thats nice. I'll ask again - when did I say I didn't visit pubs? In fact its pretty clear in that post that I do and FWIW I generally have a coffee. Just in case your senile old brain doesn't realise, its not 1970 anymore, pubs serve non alcoholic drinks and many also serve food. So toddle off and find the post where I said I never enter pubs or be a big boy and admit you've had yet another of your many senior moments. Read that thread again: you obviously seldom visit a pub. I was in one the w/e before last having lunch and I have better things to do that re-read a thread from 2 years ago in order to prove that you're even more of a plank than I already thought. |
Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
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On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 19:14:21 -0000 (UTC) Billy No Mates wrote: wrote: On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 12:50:21 -0000 (UTC) Billy No Mates wrote: wrote: Have you forgotten already? So it would seem. Do enlighten me. It was almost two years ago, so no doubt your memory has faded: Thats nice. I'll ask again - when did I say I didn't visit pubs? In fact its pretty clear in that post that I do and FWIW I generally have a coffee. Just in case your senile old brain doesn't realise, its not 1970 anymore, pubs serve non alcoholic drinks and many also serve food. So toddle off and find the post where I said I never enter pubs or be a big boy and admit you've had yet another of your many senior moments. Read that thread again: you obviously seldom visit a pub. I was in one the w/e before last having lunch and I have better things to do that re-read a thread from 2 years ago in order to prove that you're even more of a plank than I already thought. You mean, because it proved you were lying? I can imagine your knitting circle gathering in the pub for their coffee mornings, followed by lunch. Yeah, right. |
Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
In message , at 20:27:43 on Mon, 9 Mar
2020, MissRiaElaine remarked: The expression "online friend" has become a bit devalued over the years, but I try to stick to only people I have earlier met in person. .... I don't mean so-called "friends" on FarceBuke or Twitface, the people I consider friends are those with whom I share a common interest and can speak to on the phone. As I said earlier, my 'social media friends' are almost all people who I have met (and that will have been because we have - or had at the time - a common interest). Almost none would I ever speak to on the phone, because it's so much easier to contact them online. This week, chatting to someone in Australia, who should have been in Mexico, and thus won't be passing through London again for a month or too. And I have no wish to know if you are currently wearing trousers or not..!!! That's for me to know and you [not] to find out -- Roland Perry |
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On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 11:25:07 -0000 (UTC)
Billy No Mates wrote: wrote: On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 19:14:21 -0000 (UTC) Billy No Mates wrote: wrote: On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 12:50:21 -0000 (UTC) Billy No Mates wrote: wrote: Have you forgotten already? So it would seem. Do enlighten me. It was almost two years ago, so no doubt your memory has faded: Thats nice. I'll ask again - when did I say I didn't visit pubs? In fact its pretty clear in that post that I do and FWIW I generally have a coffee. Just in case your senile old brain doesn't realise, its not 1970 anymore, pubs serve non alcoholic drinks and many also serve food. So toddle off and find the post where I said I never enter pubs or be a big boy and admit you've had yet another of your many senior moments. Read that thread again: you obviously seldom visit a pub. I was in one the w/e before last having lunch and I have better things to do that re-read a thread from 2 years ago in order to prove that you're even more of a plank than I already thought. You mean, because it proved you were lying? If thats the case you'll be able to post something to that effect otherwise go do one. I can imagine your knitting circle gathering in the pub for their coffee mornings, followed by lunch. Yeah, right. Don't project your own weekends into my life. |
Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
On 10/03/2020 11:47, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 20:27:43 on Mon, 9 Mar 2020, MissRiaElaine remarked: Â*The expression "online friend" has become a bit devalued over the years,Â* but I try to stick to only people I have earlier met in person. ... I don't mean so-called "friends" on FarceBuke or Twitface, the people I consider friends are those with whom I share a common interest and can speak to on the phone. As I said earlier, my 'social media friends' are almost all people who I have met (and that will have been because we have - or had at the time - a common interest). Almost none would I ever speak to on the phone, because it's so much easier to contact them online. This week, chatting to someone in Australia, who should have been in Mexico, and thus won't be passing through London again for a month or too. And I have no wish to know if you are currently wearing trousers or not..!!! That's for me to know and you [not] to find out I don't *want* to find out, thanks all the same..!! I am not a great "typer" and this is an awkward way of communicating for me. I am a talker and could spend hours on the phone (and frequently do..!) -- Ria in Aberdeen [Send address is invalid, use sipsoup at gmail dot com to reply direct] |
Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
On 10/03/2020 19:00, MissRiaElaine wrote:
snip I am not a great "typer" and this is an awkward way of communicating for me. I am a talker and could spend hours on the phone (and frequently do..!) As am I, we frequently have to set a timer so that we don't go over the 60 minutes, then hang up and redial. It has be known for us to it three timea in one conversation. |
Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
"Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: "Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: thus reducing the use of other hubs like Madrid or Schiphol. Those benefit both UK residents if it happens and the planet. how? Flights from these other hubs are still going to operate. There will be fewer of them but, certainly in the case of South America, that's not going to happen I've flown the LON-MAD-S America route and 90% of the passengers on the long haul part are Spanish Speaking. Which routes have you flown? I flew to Bolivia and Panama not destinations noted for direct flights from London (if there was I would have used them), and yet there were few non Spanish on the flight Several major South American cities do have direct London flights, agreed ones which are currently popular destination for Brits to go to (business or pleasure) that's the point the ones that Brits mostly want to go to already have direct flights opening up slots to enable direct flights to extra destinations will not result in these extra destinations being South America destinations currently not served, as they aren't popular enough so not many Brits would take the MAD indirect route unless it was a lot cheaper . they do it because the only alternative is having to pass through US immigration (or sometimes KLM via AMS) tim |
Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 14:42:57 +0100, "tim..."
wrote: "Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: "Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: thus reducing the use of other hubs like Madrid or Schiphol. Those benefit both UK residents if it happens and the planet. how? Flights from these other hubs are still going to operate. There will be fewer of them but, certainly in the case of South America, that's not going to happen I've flown the LON-MAD-S America route and 90% of the passengers on the long haul part are Spanish Speaking. Which routes have you flown? I flew to Bolivia and Panama not destinations noted for direct flights from London (if there was I would have used them), and yet there were few non Spanish on the flight Several major South American cities do have direct London flights, agreed ones which are currently popular destination for Brits to go to (business or pleasure) that's the point the ones that Brits mostly want to go to already have direct flights opening up slots to enable direct flights to extra destinations will not result in these extra destinations being South America destinations currently not served, as they aren't popular enough so not many Brits would take the MAD indirect route unless it was a lot cheaper . they do it because the only alternative is having to pass through US immigration (or sometimes KLM via AMS) tim The economics of aircraft like the 787 are changing route structures. I very much doubt BA would have opened routes like London/Santiago or London/Lima without it even allowing for the increase in people going to such destinations. It's my belief we will see more and more "long, thin, routes" in years to come and that, in the case of South America, the need to travel via Madrid or Amsterdam will slowly fade. In any case, my own preference in recent years has been to use a non stop flight from London to one of the few places in South America (e.g. Sao Paulo) and then get my connection rather than going via Madrid although I accept that for destinations in countries in the northwest corner of the continent (e.g. Ecuador) that might not be ideal. |
Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
"Graham Harrison" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 14:42:57 +0100, "tim..." wrote: "Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: "Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: thus reducing the use of other hubs like Madrid or Schiphol. Those benefit both UK residents if it happens and the planet. how? Flights from these other hubs are still going to operate. There will be fewer of them but, certainly in the case of South America, that's not going to happen I've flown the LON-MAD-S America route and 90% of the passengers on the long haul part are Spanish Speaking. Which routes have you flown? I flew to Bolivia and Panama not destinations noted for direct flights from London (if there was I would have used them), and yet there were few non Spanish on the flight Several major South American cities do have direct London flights, agreed ones which are currently popular destination for Brits to go to (business or pleasure) that's the point the ones that Brits mostly want to go to already have direct flights opening up slots to enable direct flights to extra destinations will not result in these extra destinations being South America destinations currently not served, as they aren't popular enough so not many Brits would take the MAD indirect route unless it was a lot cheaper . they do it because the only alternative is having to pass through US immigration (or sometimes KLM via AMS) tim The economics of aircraft like the 787 are changing route structures. I very much doubt BA would have opened routes like London/Santiago or London/Lima without it even allowing for the increase in people going to such destinations. It's my belief we will see more and more "long, thin, routes" in years to come and that, in the case of South America, the need to travel via Madrid or Amsterdam will slowly fade. I hope to live long enough to find out unfortunately, I don't think I will In any case, my own preference in recent years has been to use a non stop flight from London to one of the few places in South America (e.g. Sao Paulo) and then get my connection rather than going via Madrid although I accept that for destinations in countries in the northwest corner of the continent (e.g. Ecuador) that might not be ideal. the North of the continent is served directly by Avianca to Bogotá you can decide for yourself whether that's ideal |
Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 21:06:43 +0100
Graham Harrison wrote: It's my belief we will see more and more "long, thin, routes" in years to come and that, in the case of South America, the need to travel via Madrid or Amsterdam will slowly fade. In any case, my own preference in recent years has been to use a non stop flight from London to one of the few places in South America (e.g. Sao Paulo) and then get my connection rather than going via Madrid although I accept that for destinations in countries in the northwest corner of the continent (e.g. Ecuador) that might not be ideal. First world problems eh? |
Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
tim... wrote:
"Graham Harrison" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 14:42:57 +0100, "tim..." wrote: "Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: "Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: thus reducing the use of other hubs like Madrid or Schiphol. Those benefit both UK residents if it happens and the planet. how? Flights from these other hubs are still going to operate. There will be fewer of them but, certainly in the case of South America, that's not going to happen I've flown the LON-MAD-S America route and 90% of the passengers on the long haul part are Spanish Speaking. Which routes have you flown? I flew to Bolivia and Panama not destinations noted for direct flights from London (if there was I would have used them), and yet there were few non Spanish on the flight Several major South American cities do have direct London flights, agreed ones which are currently popular destination for Brits to go to (business or pleasure) that's the point the ones that Brits mostly want to go to already have direct flights opening up slots to enable direct flights to extra destinations will not result in these extra destinations being South America destinations currently not served, as they aren't popular enough so not many Brits would take the MAD indirect route unless it was a lot cheaper . they do it because the only alternative is having to pass through US immigration (or sometimes KLM via AMS) tim The economics of aircraft like the 787 are changing route structures. I very much doubt BA would have opened routes like London/Santiago or London/Lima without it even allowing for the increase in people going to such destinations. It's my belief we will see more and more "long, thin, routes" in years to come and that, in the case of South America, the need to travel via Madrid or Amsterdam will slowly fade. I hope to live long enough to find out unfortunately, I don't think I will In any case, my own preference in recent years has been to use a non stop flight from London to one of the few places in South America (e.g. Sao Paulo) and then get my connection rather than going via Madrid although I accept that for destinations in countries in the northwest corner of the continent (e.g. Ecuador) that might not be ideal. the North of the continent is served directly by Avianca to Bogotá When I flew to Bogotá, it was va Amsterdam. you can decide for yourself whether that's ideal It wasn't ideal. |
Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
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Heathrow expansion plans "illegal"
"Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: "Graham Harrison" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 14:42:57 +0100, "tim..." wrote: "Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: "Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: thus reducing the use of other hubs like Madrid or Schiphol. Those benefit both UK residents if it happens and the planet. how? Flights from these other hubs are still going to operate. There will be fewer of them but, certainly in the case of South America, that's not going to happen I've flown the LON-MAD-S America route and 90% of the passengers on the long haul part are Spanish Speaking. Which routes have you flown? I flew to Bolivia and Panama not destinations noted for direct flights from London (if there was I would have used them), and yet there were few non Spanish on the flight Several major South American cities do have direct London flights, agreed ones which are currently popular destination for Brits to go to (business or pleasure) that's the point the ones that Brits mostly want to go to already have direct flights opening up slots to enable direct flights to extra destinations will not result in these extra destinations being South America destinations currently not served, as they aren't popular enough so not many Brits would take the MAD indirect route unless it was a lot cheaper . they do it because the only alternative is having to pass through US immigration (or sometimes KLM via AMS) tim The economics of aircraft like the 787 are changing route structures. I very much doubt BA would have opened routes like London/Santiago or London/Lima without it even allowing for the increase in people going to such destinations. It's my belief we will see more and more "long, thin, routes" in years to come and that, in the case of South America, the need to travel via Madrid or Amsterdam will slowly fade. I hope to live long enough to find out unfortunately, I don't think I will In any case, my own preference in recent years has been to use a non stop flight from London to one of the few places in South America (e.g. Sao Paulo) and then get my connection rather than going via Madrid although I accept that for destinations in countries in the northwest corner of the continent (e.g. Ecuador) that might not be ideal. the North of the continent is served directly by Avianca to Bogotá When I flew to Bogotá, it was va Amsterdam. difficult to do a reliable check right now [1] but I suspect that the indirect flight being cheaper rule makes via AMS more competitively priced to BOG though if your destination is Quito, then via BOG is likely to be as competitive as any other route tim [1] I was recently offered stupidly cheap seats BA direct to LIM for May, but I'd bet my house that the flight wont be operating |
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