On Thu, 21 May 2020 09:10:48 +0100
"tim..." wrote:
"Recliner" wrote in message
The number of new cases in London has now fallen to zero in a 24-hour
period:


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/c...res-decline-ph
e-a4446336.html

and yet, there will be no regional variation in the rules

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...es-regional-va
riation-easing-lockdown-covid/

Given the spinelessness evident at #10 there'll probably be no variation in
the rules for weeks even though other EU countries are now all easing
restrictions far more than us. What did we do to deserve an ineffectual
blustering muppet like Boris in charge at a time like this?

wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2020 09:10:48 +0100
"tim..." wrote:
"Recliner" wrote in message
The number of new cases in London has now fallen to zero in a 24-hour
period:


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/c...res-decline-ph
e-a4446336.html

and yet, there will be no regional variation in the rules

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...es-regional-va
riation-easing-lockdown-covid/

Given the spinelessness evident at #10 there'll probably be no variation in
the rules for weeks even though other EU countries are now all easing
restrictions far more than us. What did we do to deserve an ineffectual
blustering muppet like Boris in charge at a time like this?

He's changed a lot since his near-death experience. He was previously a
gung-ho risk-taker, but is now a timid, cautious character, at least in
this respect. Being a new father (yet again) probably also makes him a lot
more cautious.

On Thu, 21 May 2020 09:55:52 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2020 09:10:48 +0100
"tim..." wrote:
"Recliner" wrote in message
The number of new cases in London has now fallen to zero in a 24-hour
period:



https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/c...res-decline-ph

e-a4446336.html

and yet, there will be no regional variation in the rules


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...es-regional-va

riation-easing-lockdown-covid/

Given the spinelessness evident at #10 there'll probably be no variation in
the rules for weeks even though other EU countries are now all easing
restrictions far more than us. What did we do to deserve an ineffectual
blustering muppet like Boris in charge at a time like this?

He's changed a lot since his near-death experience. He was previously a
gung-ho risk-taker, but is now a timid, cautious character, at least in
this respect. Being a new father (yet again) probably also makes him a lot
more cautious.

Thats probably true, but he needs to snap out of it and realise the policies
are now doing far more damage than the virus. There was some (probably
exaggerated) figure of 7 million doctor and hospital appointments backlog.
Even if its only 1 million thats a lot of people with potentially serious
problems not having them sorted. And god knows how many cancer patients are
or will soon be dead due to the NHS focusing on covid.

On 22/05/2020 09:42, wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2020 09:55:52 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2020 09:10:48 +0100
"tim..." wrote:
"Recliner" wrote in message
The number of new cases in London has now fallen to zero in a 24-hour
period:



https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/c...res-decline-ph

e-a4446336.html

and yet, there will be no regional variation in the rules


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...es-regional-va

riation-easing-lockdown-covid/

Given the spinelessness evident at #10 there'll probably be no variation in
the rules for weeks even though other EU countries are now all easing
restrictions far more than us. What did we do to deserve an ineffectual
blustering muppet like Boris in charge at a time like this?

He's changed a lot since his near-death experience. He was previously a
gung-ho risk-taker, but is now a timid, cautious character, at least in
this respect. Being a new father (yet again) probably also makes him a lot
more cautious.

Thats probably true, but he needs to snap out of it and realise the policies
are now doing far more damage than the virus. There was some (probably
exaggerated) figure of 7 million doctor and hospital appointments backlog.
Even if its only 1 million thats a lot of people with potentially serious
problems not having them sorted. And god knows how many cancer patients are
or will soon be dead due to the NHS focusing on covid.


Interestingly I've just had three reinstated appointments this week.
Mind you they are for November!

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

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On Thu, 21 May 2020 09:55:52 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2020 09:10:48 +0100
"tim..." wrote:
"Recliner" wrote in message
The number of new cases in London has now fallen to zero in a 24-hour
period:



https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/c...res-decline-ph

e-a4446336.html

and yet, there will be no regional variation in the rules


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...es-regional-va

riation-easing-lockdown-covid/

Given the spinelessness evident at #10 there'll probably be no variation
in
the rules for weeks even though other EU countries are now all easing
restrictions far more than us. What did we do to deserve an ineffectual
blustering muppet like Boris in charge at a time like this?

He's changed a lot since his near-death experience. He was previously a
gung-ho risk-taker, but is now a timid, cautious character, at least in
this respect. Being a new father (yet again) probably also makes him a lot
more cautious.

Thats probably true, but he needs to snap out of it and realise the
policies
are now doing far more damage than the virus. There was some (probably
exaggerated) figure of 7 million doctor and hospital appointments backlog.
Even if its only 1 million thats a lot of people with potentially serious
problems not having them sorted. And god knows how many cancer patients
are
or will soon be dead due to the NHS focusing on covid.

but what can he do if the unions (and apparently loads of parents) are
against this plan

people can't go back to work unless they can send their kids to school and
commute on the train

and the unions are doing their best to block those two things

On Fri, 22 May 2020 18:27:02 +0100
"tim..." wrote:
wrote in message ...
On Thu, 21 May 2020 09:55:52 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
He's changed a lot since his near-death experience. He was previously a
gung-ho risk-taker, but is now a timid, cautious character, at least in
this respect. Being a new father (yet again) probably also makes him a lot
more cautious.

Thats probably true, but he needs to snap out of it and realise the
policies
are now doing far more damage than the virus. There was some (probably
exaggerated) figure of 7 million doctor and hospital appointments backlog.
Even if its only 1 million thats a lot of people with potentially serious
problems not having them sorted. And god knows how many cancer patients
are
or will soon be dead due to the NHS focusing on covid.

but what can he do if the unions (and apparently loads of parents) are
against this plan

The unions are just sabre rattling and will soon settle down. And I'm a parent
and I have no problem with my child going back to school. If others do then
thats fine by me - smaller class sizes.

people can't go back to work unless they can send their kids to school and
commute on the train

and the unions are doing their best to block those two things

Any government with a working pair of ******** (which rules out the current one)
could enact emergency legislation at a time like this to put the unions
back in their box by making striking illegal for X months and shutting down
any union that proposes it.

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On Fri, 22 May 2020 18:27:02 +0100
"tim..." wrote:
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On Thu, 21 May 2020 09:55:52 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
He's changed a lot since his near-death experience. He was previously a
gung-ho risk-taker, but is now a timid, cautious character, at least in
this respect. Being a new father (yet again) probably also makes him a
lot
more cautious.

Thats probably true, but he needs to snap out of it and realise the
policies
are now doing far more damage than the virus. There was some (probably
exaggerated) figure of 7 million doctor and hospital appointments
backlog.
Even if its only 1 million thats a lot of people with potentially
serious
problems not having them sorted. And god knows how many cancer patients
are
or will soon be dead due to the NHS focusing on covid.

but what can he do if the unions (and apparently loads of parents) are
against this plan

The unions are just sabre rattling and will soon settle down. And I'm a
parent
and I have no problem with my child going back to school. If others do
then
thats fine by me - smaller class sizes.

people can't go back to work unless they can send their kids to school and
commute on the train

and the unions are doing their best to block those two things

Any government with a working pair of ******** (which rules out the
current one)
could enact emergency legislation at a time like this to put the unions
back in their box by making striking illegal for X months and shutting
down
any union that proposes it.

refusing to go to work because your workplace is "unsafe" under H&S regs, is
not legally "a strike"

On Sat, 23 May 2020 10:13:16 +0100
"tim..." wrote:
wrote in message ...
On Fri, 22 May 2020 18:27:02 +0100
"tim..." wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 May 2020 09:55:52 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
He's changed a lot since his near-death experience. He was previously a
gung-ho risk-taker, but is now a timid, cautious character, at least in
this respect. Being a new father (yet again) probably also makes him a
lot
more cautious.

Thats probably true, but he needs to snap out of it and realise the
policies
are now doing far more damage than the virus. There was some (probably
exaggerated) figure of 7 million doctor and hospital appointments
backlog.
Even if its only 1 million thats a lot of people with potentially
serious
problems not having them sorted. And god knows how many cancer patients
are
or will soon be dead due to the NHS focusing on covid.

but what can he do if the unions (and apparently loads of parents) are
against this plan

The unions are just sabre rattling and will soon settle down. And I'm a
parent
and I have no problem with my child going back to school. If others do
then
thats fine by me - smaller class sizes.

people can't go back to work unless they can send their kids to school and
commute on the train

and the unions are doing their best to block those two things

Any government with a working pair of ******** (which rules out the
current one)
could enact emergency legislation at a time like this to put the unions
back in their box by making striking illegal for X months and shutting
down
any union that proposes it.

refusing to go to work because your workplace is "unsafe" under H&S regs, is
not legally "a strike"

Except its not unsafe if you believe the scientists. The unions were more
than happy to believe them when they said we needed a lockdown, yet for some
strange reason I can't quite fathom they decide not to believe them when it
means their members may have to go back to actually doing some work.

On 23/05/2020 09:54, wrote:


Any government with a working pair of ******** (which rules out the current one)
could enact emergency legislation at a time like this to put the unions
back in their box by making striking illegal for X months and shutting down
any union that proposes it.


Wouldn't that risk turning into more of a politician with one bollock
approach?

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

On Sat, 23 May 2020 11:33:54 +0100
Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 23/05/2020 09:54, wrote:


Any government with a working pair of ******** (which rules out the current
one)
could enact emergency legislation at a time like this to put the unions
back in their box by making striking illegal for X months and shutting down
any union that proposes it.


Wouldn't that risk turning into more of a politician with one bollock
approach?

I don't follow.