So this week is the start of the pre-9 am embargo on my card, and face
masks.

I usually do my weekly shopping on Tuesday, I left home at 8:55 so as not to
be twirley.

Got to the stop at 8:58 just as a bus was arriving, but as it was going one
stop short of my destination I let it go. But I needn't have bothered
because it was one that had yet to be converted to accepting payment and I
would have got a "free" ride.

Nevertheless, I waited 3 minutes for the next bus number, and touched my
card to "pay"

There are signs at the entrance telling you that masks are required

Some people were wearing masks at the stop, some not, but everyone was
wearing them on the bus.

Boy, does wearing a mask steam up your glasses. I had to take mine off -
glasses that is.

FWIW, none of the shops that were open in the high street had queues at this
time

Come lunchtime I had to make my trip to the Hospital.

As I haven't got out much recently, I decided to walk to the main line
station. This is the first time that I have been there to catch a train
since lockdown.

The side entrance that I would normally used is no longer - it is exit only.

So I had to walk round to the main entrance where there are barriers up to
organise a queuing system. No idea whether there is ever enough people such
that this is needed.

Again some passengers on the platform had their masks on, some not. As per
the above, I had to keep mine off otherwise I couldn't read the next train
indicators.

Train was about 10% full, none of the seats were marked out of use. Pax
were left to make their own mind up as to where they should sit.

Everybody was masked up

In neither direction did I see "helpers" telling people to wear masks or
anybody giving them out to pax who had forgotten them

The hospital appt was a bust, they had cancelled it without telling me.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

tim

tim... wrote:
So this week is the start of the pre-9 am embargo on my card, and face
masks.

I usually do my weekly shopping on Tuesday, I left home at 8:55 so as not to
be twirley.

Got to the stop at 8:58 just as a bus was arriving, but as it was going one
stop short of my destination I let it go. But I needn't have bothered
because it was one that had yet to be converted to accepting payment and I
would have got a "free" ride.

Nevertheless, I waited 3 minutes for the next bus number, and touched my
card to "pay"

There are signs at the entrance telling you that masks are required

Some people were wearing masks at the stop, some not, but everyone was
wearing them on the bus.

Boy, does wearing a mask steam up your glasses. I had to take mine off -
glasses that is.

I trust you've invested in some suitably stylish examples, such as these, a
snip at under £105 each:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/794633459/hermes-facemasks


FWIW, none of the shops that were open in the high street had queues at this
time

Come lunchtime I had to make my trip to the Hospital.

As I haven't got out much recently, I decided to walk to the main line
station. This is the first time that I have been there to catch a train
since lockdown.

The side entrance that I would normally used is no longer - it is exit only.

So I had to walk round to the main entrance where there are barriers up to
organise a queuing system. No idea whether there is ever enough people such
that this is needed.

Again some passengers on the platform had their masks on, some not. As per
the above, I had to keep mine off otherwise I couldn't read the next train
indicators.

Train was about 10% full, none of the seats were marked out of use. Pax
were left to make their own mind up as to where they should sit.

Everybody was masked up

Yes, that confirms other accounts: people are complying, without any
heavy-handed rule enforcement.


In neither direction did I see "helpers" telling people to wear masks or
anybody giving them out to pax who had forgotten them

I think that's only at major stations. They also give out free masks for
those that need them, but probably only for the first couple of days.



The hospital appt was a bust, they had cancelled it without telling me.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Ah, bad luck!

On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 15:18:46 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
tim... wrote:
Train was about 10% full, none of the seats were marked out of use. Pax
were left to make their own mind up as to where they should sit.

Everybody was masked up

Yes, that confirms other accounts: people are complying, without any
heavy-handed rule enforcement.

I don't know about the trains but in the buses they are most certainly not.
I saw a number going past today with half the passengers unmasked. And good
for them. I won't be wearing one either next time I use PT.

On 16/06/2020 16:46, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 15:18:46 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
tim... wrote:
Train was about 10% full, none of the seats were marked out of use. Pax
were left to make their own mind up as to where they should sit.

Everybody was masked up

Yes, that confirms other accounts: people are complying, without any
heavy-handed rule enforcement.

I don't know about the trains but in the buses they are most certainly not.
I saw a number going past today with half the passengers unmasked. And good
for them. I won't be wearing one either next time I use PT.

Nor will I, fortunately they haven't introduced that ridiculous practice
up here, at least not yet. My condition (mild autism) means that I
cannot relate easily to people in a face-to-face situation unless I can
*see* their faces.

Not only that, they are worse than useless unless used *properly* which
rules out pretty much everybody except medical professionals.

Time was if someone had a mask on and they walked into a shop, they'd be
trying to rob the place..! In my motorcycling days I was regularly told
to remove my helmet when paying for petrol etc.


--
Ria in Aberdeen

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On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 18:20:21 +0100
MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 16/06/2020 16:46, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 15:18:46 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
tim... wrote:
Train was about 10% full, none of the seats were marked out of use. Pax
were left to make their own mind up as to where they should sit.

Everybody was masked up

Yes, that confirms other accounts: people are complying, without any
heavy-handed rule enforcement.

I don't know about the trains but in the buses they are most certainly not.
I saw a number going past today with half the passengers unmasked. And good
for them. I won't be wearing one either next time I use PT.

Nor will I, fortunately they haven't introduced that ridiculous practice
up here, at least not yet. My condition (mild autism) means that I

Give Nicola her usual 2 week delay and she'll implement exactly the same rules
as Westminster including this no doubt.

cannot relate easily to people in a face-to-face situation unless I can
*see* their faces.

Not only that, they are worse than useless unless used *properly* which
rules out pretty much everybody except medical professionals.

Time was if someone had a mask on and they walked into a shop, they'd be
trying to rob the place..! In my motorcycling days I was regularly told
to remove my helmet when paying for petrol etc.

Yes, that is certainly a factor that the No10 muppets have overlooked - once a
lot of people are back out on the streets its going to be a criminals paradise.
Muggers and shoplifters in particular will have a field day.

"Recliner" wrote in message
...
tim... wrote:
So this week is the start of the pre-9 am embargo on my card, and face
masks.

I usually do my weekly shopping on Tuesday, I left home at 8:55 so as not
to
be twirley.

Got to the stop at 8:58 just as a bus was arriving, but as it was going
one
stop short of my destination I let it go. But I needn't have bothered
because it was one that had yet to be converted to accepting payment and
I
would have got a "free" ride.

Nevertheless, I waited 3 minutes for the next bus number, and touched my
card to "pay"

There are signs at the entrance telling you that masks are required

Some people were wearing masks at the stop, some not, but everyone was
wearing them on the bus.

Boy, does wearing a mask steam up your glasses. I had to take mine off -
glasses that is.

I trust you've invested in some suitably stylish examples, such as these,
a
snip at under £105 each:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/794633459/hermes-facemasks

good god

I was expecting something functionally superior

FWIW, none of the shops that were open in the high street had queues at
this
time

Come lunchtime I had to make my trip to the Hospital.

As I haven't got out much recently, I decided to walk to the main line
station. This is the first time that I have been there to catch a train
since lockdown.

The side entrance that I would normally used is no longer - it is exit
only.

So I had to walk round to the main entrance where there are barriers up
to
organise a queuing system. No idea whether there is ever enough people
such
that this is needed.

Again some passengers on the platform had their masks on, some not. As
per
the above, I had to keep mine off otherwise I couldn't read the next
train
indicators.

Train was about 10% full, none of the seats were marked out of use. Pax
were left to make their own mind up as to where they should sit.

Everybody was masked up

Yes, that confirms other accounts: people are complying, without any
heavy-handed rule enforcement.


In neither direction did I see "helpers" telling people to wear masks or
anybody giving them out to pax who had forgotten them

I think that's only at major stations.

both stations in the 20 busiest in London list

both interchange with underground

I could have done the journey by Underground, NR + bus was quicker

On 16/06/2020 16:56, tim... wrote:

good god

I was expecting something functionally superior

Functional..? NONE of the ridiculous things being worn by the public at
large are remotely functional.

--
Ria in Aberdeen

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MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 16/06/2020 16:56, tim... wrote:

good god

I was expecting something functionally superior

Functional..? NONE of the ridiculous things being worn by the public at
large are remotely functional.


In what sense?

On 16/06/2020 20:59, Recliner wrote:
MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 16/06/2020 16:56, tim... wrote:

good god

I was expecting something functionally superior

Functional..? NONE of the ridiculous things being worn by the public at
large are remotely functional.


In what sense?

In the sense that people have them on for.

Unless you are a medical professional or you have the training to use
the correct mask in the correct way (including disposal) then it isn't
going to be any use.

Once you touch them, then they are contaminated, and so are your hands
and anything you touch.

--
Ria in Aberdeen

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"MissRiaElaine" wrote in message
...
On 16/06/2020 16:56, tim... wrote:

good god

I was expecting something functionally superior

Functional..? NONE of the ridiculous things being worn by the public at
large are remotely functional.

You're wrong

some designs do have filtered vents which (attempt) to safely solve the
condensation problem

Whether they actually work, or not

I have no idea