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In message , at 11:50:29 on Wed, 17
Jun 2020, MissRiaElaine remarked:

Functional..? NONE of the ridiculous things being worn by the public at
large are remotely functional.

In what sense?


In the sense that people have them on for.

Unless you are a medical professional or you have the training to use
the correct mask in the correct way (including disposal) then it isn't
going to be any use.

Once you touch them, then they are contaminated, and so are your hands
and anything you touch.


You are addressing the wrong function. Masks for travellers aren't PPE,
they are to stop coughs and sneezes *BY THE WEARER*, spreading the
disease. Also by the wearer not so easily touching their mouth/nose and
then wiping their snot on the surroundings.

This is, incidentally, why a DIY dust mask with a valve in it is "the
wrong way round". But they are still better than nothing.
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On 17/06/2020 13:24, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:50:29 on Wed, 17
Jun 2020, MissRiaElaine remarked:

Functional..? NONE of the ridiculous things being worn by the public at
large are remotely functional.

Â*In what sense?


In the sense that people have them on for.

Unless you are a medical professional or you have the training to use
the correct mask in the correct way (including disposal) then it isn't
going to be any use.

Once you touch them, then they are contaminated, and so are your hands
and anything you touch.


You are addressing the wrong function. Masks for travellers aren't PPE,
they are to stop coughs and sneezes *BY THE WEARER*, spreading the
disease. Also by the wearer not so easily touching their mouth/nose and
then wiping their snot on the surroundings.

This is, incidentally, why a DIY dust mask with a valve in it is "the
wrong way round". But they are still better than nothing.


Oh believe what you like, I give up.

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MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 17/06/2020 13:24, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:50:29 on Wed, 17
Jun 2020, MissRiaElaine remarked:

Functional..? NONE of the ridiculous things being worn by the public at
large are remotely functional.

Â*In what sense?

In the sense that people have them on for.

Unless you are a medical professional or you have the training to use
the correct mask in the correct way (including disposal) then it isn't
going to be any use.

Once you touch them, then they are contaminated, and so are your hands
and anything you touch.


You are addressing the wrong function. Masks for travellers aren't PPE,
they are to stop coughs and sneezes *BY THE WEARER*, spreading the
disease. Also by the wearer not so easily touching their mouth/nose and
then wiping their snot on the surroundings.

This is, incidentally, why a DIY dust mask with a valve in it is "the
wrong way round". But they are still better than nothing.


Oh believe what you like, I give up.


So what do you believe?

As far as I can tell, you don't want to wear a mask because they're hot and
uncomfortable. I agree.

But I don't then dream up increasingly bizarre 'dog-ate-my-homework'
reasons for not doing so. Have I missed any of yours:

- Only trained medical staff with PPE training are capable of wearing
masks.

- They don't protect the wearer. No, they're not claimed to do so.

- It will prevent autistic people forming deep and personal relationships
with people they casually encounter on public transport. These are the same
people who don't relate to other people, anyway, with or without masks,
right?

- They give wearers a false sense of security.

- They will contaminate the hands of infected wearers. Really?

- They will make everyone look like street robbers.

- They will prevent deaf people from lip reading essential announcements
on public transport.

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