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Can't update Oyster card with cash any more
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Can't update Oyster card with cash any more
On 11/08/2020 08:48, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 18:39:31 +0100 Arthur Figgis wrote: On 10/08/2020 10:22, wrote: On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 10:02:08 +0100 MikeS wrote: On 10/08/2020 08:40, wrote: I took the tube for the first time in months yesterday and it seems you can no longer update your oyster card with cash. I asked one of the staff about this apparently "temporary" measure and he said he doubts the facility will ever come back and I tend to believe him. So thats another avenue of anonymity out the window. How long before Oyster cards themselves are consigned to history and we have to use a bank card everywhere so we can be nicely tracked not only by TfL but by the banks too? TfL's website lists 69 tube stations which it says still accept cash, plus DLR and Overground. Oyster cards can be bought and topped up at newsagents and other shops all over the TfL area. I doubt they all refuse cash either. Common sense says that the OP cannot be correct because it would be impossible for anyone without a bank account to use London's buses. Plenty of shops and cafes are not accepting cash or making it very difficult to pay with it by making self serve machines card only and having to queue for the single assistant at the till, so what makes you think TfL give a damn? Because TfL are required by the politicians to give a damn, and consider the edge cases and goat herders. It was politicians (I'm not sure whether it was Sadiq Squirt or Number 10) that told them to stop accepting cash in imost of their stations in the first place according to the member of staff I spoke to. Cash is a known vector in the transmission of various diseases. -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
Can't update Oyster card with cash any more
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 10:09:39 +0100
Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 07:48:39 on Tue, 11 Aug 2020, remarked: TfL's website lists 69 tube stations which it says still accept cash, plus DLR and Overground. Oyster cards can be bought and topped up at newsagents and other shops all over the TfL area. I doubt they all refuse cash either. Common sense says that the OP cannot be correct because it would be impossible for anyone without a bank account to use London's buses. Plenty of shops and cafes are not accepting cash or making it very difficult to pay with it by making self serve machines card only and having to queue for the single assistant at the till, so what makes you think TfL give a damn? Because TfL are required by the politicians to give a damn, and consider the edge cases and goat herders. It was politicians (I'm not sure whether it was Sadiq Squirt or Number 10) that told them to stop accepting cash in imost of their stations in the first place according to the member of staff I spoke to. Is that all forms of cash, or only over-the-counter cash? Specifically, have they disabled the coinslots and note-readers on the TVMs. What counters? Certainly the coinslots on the ticket machines I saw were closed and the "Pay other amount" option in the on screen menu had gone. |
Can't update Oyster card with cash any more
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 10:24:40 +0100
Graeme Wall wrote: On 11/08/2020 08:48, wrote: It was politicians (I'm not sure whether it was Sadiq Squirt or Number 10) that told them to stop accepting cash in imost of their stations in the first place according to the member of staff I spoke to. Cash is a known vector in the transmission of various diseases. So is anything touched by people though copper coins tend to kill most pathogens. I dread to think what is on the keypad button of card readers. |
Can't update Oyster card with cash any more
On 11/08/2020 10:54, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 10:24:40 +0100 Graeme Wall wrote: On 11/08/2020 08:48, wrote: It was politicians (I'm not sure whether it was Sadiq Squirt or Number 10) that told them to stop accepting cash in imost of their stations in the first place according to the member of staff I spoke to. Cash is a known vector in the transmission of various diseases. So is anything touched by people though copper coins tend to kill most pathogens. I dread to think what is on the keypad button of card readers. When did you last see a copper coin? -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
Can't update Oyster card with cash any more
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 11:52:08 +0100
Graeme Wall wrote: On 11/08/2020 10:54, wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 10:24:40 +0100 Graeme Wall wrote: On 11/08/2020 08:48, wrote: It was politicians (I'm not sure whether it was Sadiq Squirt or Number 10) that told them to stop accepting cash in imost of their stations in the first place according to the member of staff I spoke to. Cash is a known vector in the transmission of various diseases. So is anything touched by people though copper coins tend to kill most pathogens. I dread to think what is on the keypad button of card readers. When did you last see a copper coin? Last time I handled a 2p piece which was only recently. And before you turn your pedant mode to up 11 I know its copper plated but the germs don't know that. |
Can't update Oyster card with cash any more
On 11/08/2020 12:43, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 11:52:08 +0100 Graeme Wall wrote: On 11/08/2020 10:54, wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 10:24:40 +0100 Graeme Wall wrote: On 11/08/2020 08:48, wrote: It was politicians (I'm not sure whether it was Sadiq Squirt or Number 10) that told them to stop accepting cash in imost of their stations in the first place according to the member of staff I spoke to. Cash is a known vector in the transmission of various diseases. So is anything touched by people though copper coins tend to kill most pathogens. I dread to think what is on the keypad button of card readers. When did you last see a copper coin? Last time I handled a 2p piece which was only recently. And before you turn your pedant mode to up 11 I know its copper plated but the germs don't know that. How many TfL ticket machines still accept 2p pieces? -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
Can't update Oyster card with cash any more
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 10:24:40 +0100, Graeme Wall
wrote: On 11/08/2020 08:48, wrote: On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 18:39:31 +0100 Arthur Figgis wrote: On 10/08/2020 10:22, wrote: On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 10:02:08 +0100 MikeS wrote: On 10/08/2020 08:40, wrote: I took the tube for the first time in months yesterday and it seems you can no longer update your oyster card with cash. I asked one of the staff about this apparently "temporary" measure and he said he doubts the facility will ever come back and I tend to believe him. So thats another avenue of anonymity out the window. How long before Oyster cards themselves are consigned to history and we have to use a bank card everywhere so we can be nicely tracked not only by TfL but by the banks too? TfL's website lists 69 tube stations which it says still accept cash, plus DLR and Overground. Oyster cards can be bought and topped up at newsagents and other shops all over the TfL area. I doubt they all refuse cash either. Common sense says that the OP cannot be correct because it would be impossible for anyone without a bank account to use London's buses. Plenty of shops and cafes are not accepting cash or making it very difficult to pay with it by making self serve machines card only and having to queue for the single assistant at the till, so what makes you think TfL give a damn? Because TfL are required by the politicians to give a damn, and consider the edge cases and goat herders. It was politicians (I'm not sure whether it was Sadiq Squirt or Number 10) that told them to stop accepting cash in imost of their stations in the first place according to the member of staff I spoke to. Cash is a known vector in the transmission of various diseases. At least notes can be washed nowadays through the process known as money-laundering. Would 60 degrees be sufficient :-) |
Can't update Oyster card with cash any more
In message , at 10:03:44 on
Tue, 11 Aug 2020, Scott remarked: On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:58:30 +0000 (UTC), wrote: On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 09:04:09 +0100 Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 07:40:56 on Mon, 10 Aug 2020, remarked: I took the tube for the first time in months yesterday and it seems you can no longer update your oyster card with cash. Is that a subset of the TVMs perhaps not accepting cash for *any* transaction? No idea. I asked one of the staff about this apparently "temporary" measure and he said he doubts the facility will ever come back and I tend to believe him. So thats another avenue of anonymity out the window. Get yourself a pre-pay credit card, for example from a bureau -de-change. That'll break the chain of traceability unless you are a suspected terrorist on the run. I'm not fussed enough, but thats not the point. Why is the cash option being dropped? Any covid excuses are BS since the staff never need to physically touch it, they just empty the bucket into something Securicor (or whoever) take away. A trader I knew said that once handling costs and pay-in charges are taken into account, cash is more expensive to process than a debit card. It depends a lot on what sector the business is in. For example, traditionally the card companies gave petrol stations very low commission rates, because it accustomed the public to using cards. If you are in the pub trade and need to pay your wholesale grocer in cash when they deliver every morning (because your trade-credit rating is pants), it might well make sense not to discourage cash. -- Roland Perry |
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