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On 30/08/2020 23:48, Basil Jet wrote:

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Doesn't appear to be architecturally distinguished though a nice example
of a brick built arch bridge.

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On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 23:48:23 +0100
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Never mind demolishing it - they should reinstate the line to muswell hill. All
the trackbed is still in situ from there back to highgate sidings and putting
track back down and restoring highgate high level station would cost buttons in
comparisons to white elephants such as crossrail. I'm pretty sure a shuttle
service to and from highgate to catch the main northern line would be pretty
popular given the current alternative is the bus to wood green.

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Graeme Wall wrote:
On 30/08/2020 23:48, Basil Jet wrote:

https://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/herit...shed-1-6733534




Doesn't appear to be architecturally distinguished though a nice example
of a brick built arch bridge.


Surprised it hasn’t been absolutely covered in Graffiti like others along
the Parkland walk ,
a few years ago I took the W3 bus from F/Park to Ally Pally and it passed
under one of the bridges
on the route and it looked like the hanging gardens of Babylon due to Ivy
etc and while at least it looked better than graffiti probably wasn’t
doing the structure much good.
Looking at street view (on an I pad so no historical option) I cannot
identify it now so must have been tidied up, at least one bridge has
already been replaced by a much lighter structure to retain the footpath.

GH


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On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 08:46:10 +0000 (UTC),
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 23:48:23 +0100
Basil Jet wrote:
https://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/herit...ould-be-demoli
shed-1-6733534


Never mind demolishing it - they should reinstate the line to muswell hill. All
the trackbed is still in situ from there back to highgate sidings and putting
track back down and restoring highgate high level station would cost buttons in
comparisons to white elephants such as crossrail. I'm pretty sure a shuttle
service to and from highgate to catch the main northern line would be pretty
popular given the current alternative is the bus to wood green.


Which line? I believe the original 'Northern Heights' project was to
extend the Northern Line to Alexandra Palace. Are you looking at a
branch or just a shuttle from the high level station at Highgate? If
the latter, could it be trams rather than trains?

Is the project to build a hotel at Alexandra Palace still live? Maybe
the developers could contribute.


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On 31/08/2020 09:46, wrote:
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 23:48:23 +0100
Basil Jet wrote:
https://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/herit...ould-be-demoli
shed-1-6733534


Never mind demolishing it - they should reinstate the line to muswell hill. All
the trackbed is still in situ from there back to highgate sidings and putting
track back down and restoring highgate high level station would cost buttons in
comparisons to white elephants such as crossrail. I'm pretty sure a shuttle
service to and from highgate to catch the main northern line would be pretty
popular given the current alternative is the bus to wood green.


So a couple of hundred, at most, commuters a day compared to the white
elephant carrying tens of thousands.

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On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:39:05 +0100
Scott wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 08:46:10 +0000 (UTC),
wrote:

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 23:48:23 +0100
Basil Jet wrote:
https://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/herit...-could-be-demo
li
shed-1-6733534


Never mind demolishing it - they should reinstate the line to muswell hill.

All
the trackbed is still in situ from there back to highgate sidings and putting


track back down and restoring highgate high level station would cost buttons

in
comparisons to white elephants such as crossrail. I'm pretty sure a shuttle
service to and from highgate to catch the main northern line would be pretty
popular given the current alternative is the bus to wood green.


Which line? I believe the original 'Northern Heights' project was to
extend the Northern Line to Alexandra Palace. Are you looking at a
branch or just a shuttle from the high level station at Highgate? If
the latter, could it be trams rather than trains?


Yes, a shuttle to highgate high level. Taking the line back to finsbury park
would be next to impossible now and the short section from muswell hill to the
palace has a school built on the trackbed so thats a non starter. I guess you
could use a tram but given there's a large northern line depot at highgate it
would probably be easier just to use a northern line train, perhaps 3 cars only.

Is the project to build a hotel at Alexandra Palace still live? Maybe
the developers could contribute.


Beats me, not heard about it. I don't live in that area but I do visit quite
often.

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In message , writes
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 23:48:23 +0100
Basil Jet wrote:
https://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/herit...bridge-could-b
e-demoli
shed-1-6733534


Never mind demolishing it - they should reinstate the line to muswell hill. All
the trackbed is still in situ from there back to highgate sidings and putting
track back down and restoring highgate high level station would cost buttons in
comparisons to white elephants such as crossrail. I'm pretty sure a shuttle
service to and from highgate to catch the main northern line would be pretty
popular given the current alternative is the bus to wood green.

It's over 40 years since, as a Haringey Councillor and member of the
Alexander Palace and park committee I proposed a unique light railway,
part at ground level, part suspended on the old line. Funded by the,
then, EEC and running from Highgate high level station

A feasibility study was turned down by those who said it would ruin the
Parkland Walk
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On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:40:03 +0100
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 31/08/2020 09:46, wrote:
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 23:48:23 +0100
Basil Jet wrote:

https://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/herit...ould-be-demoli

shed-1-6733534


Never mind demolishing it - they should reinstate the line to muswell hill.

All
the trackbed is still in situ from there back to highgate sidings and putting


track back down and restoring highgate high level station would cost buttons

in
comparisons to white elephants such as crossrail. I'm pretty sure a shuttle
service to and from highgate to catch the main northern line would be pretty
popular given the current alternative is the bus to wood green.


So a couple of hundred, at most, commuters a day compared to the white
elephant carrying tens of thousands.


A couple of hundred? You've never been to muswell hill have you.

And crossrail sure as hell won't be carrying 10s of thousands anytime soon
even if it does open next year which it probably won't.

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On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:58:48 +0100
Bryan Morris wrote:
In message , writes
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 23:48:23 +0100
Basil Jet wrote:
https://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/herit...bridge-could-b
e-demoli
shed-1-6733534


Never mind demolishing it - they should reinstate the line to muswell hill.

All
the trackbed is still in situ from there back to highgate sidings and putting
track back down and restoring highgate high level station would cost buttons

in
comparisons to white elephants such as crossrail. I'm pretty sure a shuttle
service to and from highgate to catch the main northern line would be pretty
popular given the current alternative is the bus to wood green.

It's over 40 years since, as a Haringey Councillor and member of the
Alexander Palace and park committee I proposed a unique light railway,
part at ground level, part suspended on the old line. Funded by the,
then, EEC and running from Highgate high level station


I'm not convinced a light railway/tram with all the extra expense of maintaining
specialised rolling stock and its own depot would be cheaper than just laying a
couple of extra miles of track out from highgate depot, but either way the area
needs a rail link as during (normal) rush hours its just gridlock around there.

A feasibility study was turned down by those who said it would ruin the
Parkland Walk


There's always a few nimbies.



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