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I see Tim is working on a new series to be shown later in the year on
Yesterday. From a tweet this morning of his: One of the few +ves of commuting on the tube (and filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground) during a lockdown is that recently I’ve been walking around London’s underground network a lot, and at times, almost *entirely* by myself. That led me to an announcement from two weeks ago: https://realscreen.com/2021/03/16/uktv-commissions-secrets-of-the-london-underground-from-brown-bob/ |
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filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? -- Basil Jet recently enjoyed listening to 1984 - Psychic... Powerless... Another Man's Sac - Butthole Surfers |
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Basil Jet wrote:
filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty throughout the pandemic. |
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On 31/03/2021 09:53, Recliner wrote:
Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty throughout the pandemic. Reporting is an essential service. Making documentaries about the secrets of The Underground isn't. -- Basil Jet recently enjoyed listening to 1983 - Mummer - XTC |
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On 31/03/2021 09:59, Basil Jet wrote:
On 31/03/2021 09:53, Recliner wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty throughout the pandemic. Reporting is an essential service. Making documentaries about the secrets of The Underground isn't. Lots of radio, TV amd film production has continued through Lockdown. Must admit that it seems hard to justify yet another film about the London Underground during Lockdown. |
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 09:59:56 +0100, Basil Jet wrote:
On 31/03/2021 09:53, Recliner wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty throughout the pandemic. Reporting is an essential service. Making documentaries about the secrets of The Underground isn't. Who said it was? The rule is work from home if you can. Otherwise you should go to work and observe precautions. You can even hold large, indoor, meetings for work purposes. |
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On 31/03/2021 09:59, Basil Jet wrote:
On 31/03/2021 09:53, Recliner wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty throughout the pandemic. Reporting is an essential service. Making documentaries about the secrets of The Underground isn't. It might be something that will be interesting to watch on TV though! (For once) .... even if the 'secrets' aren't actually a secret to anyone here. |
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"Basil Jet" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 09:53, Recliner wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty throughout the pandemic. Reporting is an essential service. Making documentaries about the secrets of The Underground isn't. There is no requirement that a job of work should be essential before it is undertaken The law accepts that commercial life must go on So it is simply subjected to social distancing rules and if you can make a socially distance documentary, you are 100% free to do so. (and the presenter can even have their hair professionally cut before doing so) |
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Basil Jet wrote:
filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year? Various very interesting YouTubers have continued making videos within the rules too (eg Tom Scott and The Tim Traveller) - I'm guessing that they make all/a considerable amount of their income from their YouTube videos, therefore it counts as work, it can't be done from home, therefore it's permitted. Geoff Marshall's 399 (?) bus video recently discussed here falls into the same category - was that essential? Anna Noyd-Dryver |
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"MB" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 09:59, Basil Jet wrote: On 31/03/2021 09:53, Recliner wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty throughout the pandemic. Reporting is an essential service. Making documentaries about the secrets of The Underground isn't. Lots of radio, TV amd film production has continued through Lockdown. Must admit that it seems hard to justify yet another film about the London Underground during Lockdown. I think you mean: Must admit that it seems hard to justify yet another film about the London Underground |
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On 31/03/2021 11:50, tim... wrote:
"MB" wrote Must admit that it seems hard to justify yet another film about the London Underground during Lockdown. I think you mean: Must admit that it seems hard to justify yet another film about the London Underground I'd watch programmes about the UndergrounD all day long, so no problems here. I hope there's plenty more! :-) |
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On 31/03/2021 11:49, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year? Anna Noyd-Dryver (OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years. It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious stories...... |
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"Bevan Price" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 11:49, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year? Anna Noyd-Dryver (OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years. It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious stories...... is your TV missing an OFF button? |
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 09:59:56 +0100
Basil Jet wrote: On 31/03/2021 09:53, Recliner wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty throughout the pandemic. Reporting is an essential service. The sort of reporting which scared the **** out of the gullible with the covid hysteria should be banned, never mind be essential. |
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On 31/03/2021 12:56, tim... wrote:
"Bevan Price" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 11:49, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year? Anna Noyd-Dryver (OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years. It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious stories...... is your TV missing an OFF button? No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there were more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition of things long past their sell-by dates. Too many TV executives seem to take the lazy option of "more of the same" rather than experimenting with "something different". |
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On 31/03/2021 12:56, tim... wrote: "Bevan Price" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 11:49, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year? Anna Noyd-Dryver (OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years. It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious stories...... is your TV missing an OFF button? No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there were more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition of things long past their sell-by dates. Too many TV executives seem to take the lazy option of "more of the same" rather than experimenting with "something different". Netflix has a lot of original drama content, though of course it requires a subscription. Anna Noyd-Dryver |
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On 31/03/2021 12:56, tim... wrote: "Bevan Price" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 11:49, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year? Anna Noyd-Dryver (OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years. It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious stories...... is your TV missing an OFF button? No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there were more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition of things long past their sell-by dates. Too many TV executives seem to take the lazy option of "more of the same" rather than experimenting with "something different". The soap operas get far more viewers than most original dramas. That's why they don't go away. |
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On 31/03/2021 20:40, Recliner wrote:
Bevan Price wrote: On 31/03/2021 12:56, tim... wrote: "Bevan Price" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 11:49, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year? Anna Noyd-Dryver (OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years. It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious stories...... is your TV missing an OFF button? No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there were more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition of things long past their sell-by dates. Too many TV executives seem to take the lazy option of "more of the same" rather than experimenting with "something different". The soap operas get far more viewers than most original dramas. That's why they don't go away. I find that hard to understand why. Must be a lot of people who like doing / seeing the same things, time after time, year after year. Personally I prefer "variability" of my entertainment (for want of a better description). |
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On 31/03/2021 20:40, Recliner wrote: Bevan Price wrote: On 31/03/2021 12:56, tim... wrote: "Bevan Price" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 11:49, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year? Anna Noyd-Dryver (OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years. It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious stories...... is your TV missing an OFF button? No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there were more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition of things long past their sell-by dates. Too many TV executives seem to take the lazy option of "more of the same" rather than experimenting with "something different". The soap operas get far more viewers than most original dramas. That's why they don't go away. I find that hard to understand why. Must be a lot of people who like doing / seeing the same things, time after time, year after year. Personally I prefer "variability" of my entertainment (for want of a better description). Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and stays 2m apart? I must admit that I enjoyed Heatbeat and The Bill, which weren't soaps, but did get a bit soapy at times. The Bill, in particular, was sometimes run by soap runners, who brought in ridiculous story lines, which I gather came straight from the soaps. |
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"Bevan Price" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 12:56, tim... wrote: "Bevan Price" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 11:49, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year? Anna Noyd-Dryver (OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years. It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious stories...... is your TV missing an OFF button? No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there were more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition of things long past their sell-by dates. So you really can't find anything of interest on one of the 57 channels (with nothing on!). Either live or time shifted via your preferred method? you're either very very very very very fussy, or not trying hard enough |
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"Bevan Price" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 20:40, Recliner wrote: Bevan Price wrote: On 31/03/2021 12:56, tim... wrote: "Bevan Price" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 11:49, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year? Anna Noyd-Dryver (OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years. It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious stories...... is your TV missing an OFF button? No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there were more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition of things long past their sell-by dates. Too many TV executives seem to take the lazy option of "more of the same" rather than experimenting with "something different". The soap operas get far more viewers than most original dramas. That's why they don't go away. I find that hard to understand why. Must be a lot of people who like doing / seeing the same things, time after time, year after year. Personally I prefer "variability" of my entertainment (for want of a better description). One of the things which I found surprising is, that if you look at the ratings for rerun channels you will find that reruns of reality-crap consistently out score, by quite some margin, reruns of drama (all types) and documentary I don't get it, but it's what the masses want |
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"Bevan Price" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 12:56, tim... wrote: "Bevan Price" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 11:49, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year? Anna Noyd-Dryver (OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years. It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious stories...... is your TV missing an OFF button? No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there were more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition of things long past their sell-by dates. So you really can't find anything of interest on one of the 57 channels (with nothing on!). A good proportion of those would have nothing to show if Adolf hadn’t invaded Poland. GH |
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On 31/03/2021 23:38, Recliner wrote:
Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and stays 2m apart? There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to record soap operas. One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real actress during the close-ups. Always amuses when people will proudly say they do not watch soaps then say they listen to The Archers! |
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On 01/04/2021 08:43, tim... wrote:
"Bevan Price" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 20:40, Recliner wrote: Bevan Price wrote: On 31/03/2021 12:56, tim... wrote: "Bevan Price" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 11:49, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year? Anna Noyd-Dryver (OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years. It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious stories...... is your TV missing an OFF button? No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there were more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition of things long past their sell-by dates. Too many TV executives seem to take the lazy option of "more of the same" rather than experimenting with "something different". The soap operas get far more viewers than most original dramas. That's why they don't go away. I find that hard to understand why. Must be a lot of people who like doing / seeing the same things, time after time, year after year. Personally I prefer "variability" of my entertainment (for want of a better description). One of the things which I found surprising is, that if you look at the ratings for rerun channels you will find that reruns of reality-crap consistently out score, by quite some margin, reruns of drama (all types) and documentary I don't get it, but it's what the masses want Even more surprising are the figures for Talking Pictures. The most recent I can find is 3.5 million weekly views with a wide age range which suggest to me the main channels are out of touch with the audience. |
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 11:50:13 +0100, "tim..." wrote:
"MB" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 09:59, Basil Jet wrote: On 31/03/2021 09:53, Recliner wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty throughout the pandemic. Reporting is an essential service. Making documentaries about the secrets of The Underground isn't. Lots of radio, TV amd film production has continued through Lockdown. Must admit that it seems hard to justify yet another film about the London Underground during Lockdown. I think you mean: Must admit that it seems hard to justify yet another film about the London Underground Not is it's not only Tim but also Siddy Holloway. |
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MB wrote:
On 31/03/2021 23:38, Recliner wrote: Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and stays 2m apart? There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to record soap operas. One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real actress during the close-ups. I wasn't referring to Covid precautions on the shoot. I was asking about whether the supposedly contemporary story lines include shut pubs, no mixing indoors, staying 2m apart outdoors, and wearing masks? |
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MB wrote: On 31/03/2021 23:38, Recliner wrote: Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and stays 2m apart? There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to record soap operas. One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real actress during the close-ups. I wasn't referring to Covid precautions on the shoot. I was asking about whether the supposedly contemporary story lines include shut pubs, no mixing indoors, staying 2m apart outdoors, and wearing masks? Part of the problem with that is that scenes are filmed (or in The Archers case, recorded) weeks or months in advance [1]. I don't know what the TV soaps did, but TA (initially at first, anyway - I haven't followed later developments) decided they'd be a fictional world without Covid - not least because they'd need to re-record months of material just as it became significantly more difficult to do so. [1] TA will occasionally re-record one scene at short notice to mention significant current events, but it wasn't considered practical to do that for the entire output at 3 days notice. Anna Noyd-Dryver |
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MB wrote:
On 31/03/2021 23:38, Recliner wrote: Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and stays 2m apart? There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to record soap operas. One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real actress during the close-ups. Kylie Minogue recorded an online-only concert which has been livestreamed twice so far; she, the backing singers, the dancers and the crew are all socially-distanced on the set [1] - the exception [2] being those who are in a bubble together, either in a relationship or more likely living together in a shared house. [1] The lack of an audience and the view being only through cameras apparently allowed all sorts of interesting things which they couldn't usually have done on a stage [2] This was stated either at the beginning of the programme, or in an associated 'making of' video, OTTOMH I can't remember which. Anna Noyd-Dryver |
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MB wrote:
On 31/03/2021 23:38, Recliner wrote: Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and stays 2m apart? There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to record soap operas. One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real actress during the close-ups. I wonder if arrangements with Equity have been relaxed or some had to join, they used to be quite strict at one time . My one and only acting scene got around that as it was for a Brazilian production company and I found myself as part of a burial at sea party while we acted as a prop for an Italian emigrant ship to Brazil. About 32 mins in . https://youtu.be/VHupZR-GurE The production was I suppose what we call a docusoap and had huge audiences in South America , the lead actress was a lovely person , could speak four languages and no diva like qualities at all. She was equally happy prop building knocking bits of wood together with a hammer which was another example of the relaxed attitude of the Brazilian production crew. She took a shine to a younger colleague and invited him to the ranch she owned in Brazil where she bred horses, silly sod got cold feet and didn’t go. Graeme may be amused we had to remind an operator of a camera on a jib that even no smoke was coming out of the funnel at that particular moment it would not do it any good holding it above it being cooked . GH |
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On 01/04/2021 09:58, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
MB wrote: On 31/03/2021 23:38, Recliner wrote: Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and stays 2m apart? There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to record soap operas. One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real actress during the close-ups. Kylie Minogue recorded an online-only concert which has been livestreamed twice so far; she, the backing singers, the dancers and the crew are all socially-distanced on the set [1] - the exception [2] being those who are in a bubble together, either in a relationship or more likely living together in a shared house. [1] The lack of an audience and the view being only through cameras apparently allowed all sorts of interesting things which they couldn't usually have done on a stage [2] This was stated either at the beginning of the programme, or in an associated 'making of' video, OTTOMH I can't remember which. Anna Noyd-Dryver Online concerts have been the one good thing about the crisis and I see some the artists I missed last year almost weekly. Sadly some artists I missed will never perform again. |
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Recliner wrote: I wasn't referring to Covid precautions on the shoot. I was asking about whether the supposedly contemporary story lines include shut pubs, no mixing indoors, staying 2m apart outdoors, and wearing masks? Part of the problem with that is that scenes are filmed (or in The Archers case, recorded) weeks or months in advance [1]. I don't know what the TV soaps did, but TA (initially at first, anyway - I haven't followed later developments) decided they'd be a fictional world without Covid - not least because they'd need to re-record months of material just as it became significantly more difficult to do so. [1] TA will occasionally re-record one scene at short notice to mention significant current events, but it wasn't considered practical to do that for the entire output at 3 days notice. Anna Noyd-Dryver I don’t know if it is a good or bad thing that I haven’t a clue what TA stands for in this context, I assume the Territorial Army isn’t doing one of those “look at as work” various Police Forces have agreed to do which know fill the hours on some minor channels. Like we all know by now how WW2 turned out no matter how many times the newsreels are rehashed and colorized watching Policeman in High powered patrol cars chasing yoofs in old Corsas down alleys has got a bit repetitive . Now if they were allowed to shoot the little oiks it might get more interesting. GH |
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 19:05:50 +0100
Graeme Wall wrote: On 31/03/2021 14:54, wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 09:59:56 +0100 Basil Jet wrote: On 31/03/2021 09:53, Recliner wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty throughout the pandemic. Reporting is an essential service. The sort of reporting which scared the **** out of the gullible with the covid hysteria should be banned, never mind be essential. Still in denial Neil? Yes, thats right. I'm in denial about the sky falling, mass deaths in the street, plague and pestilence, the 4 horsemen riding over the horizon, the end of civilisation as we know it.... or maybe not. |
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wrote in message ... On 01/04/2021 08:43, tim... wrote: "Bevan Price" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 20:40, Recliner wrote: Bevan Price wrote: On 31/03/2021 12:56, tim... wrote: "Bevan Price" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 11:49, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year? Anna Noyd-Dryver (OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years. It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious stories...... is your TV missing an OFF button? No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there were more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition of things long past their sell-by dates. Too many TV executives seem to take the lazy option of "more of the same" rather than experimenting with "something different". The soap operas get far more viewers than most original dramas. That's why they don't go away. I find that hard to understand why. Must be a lot of people who like doing / seeing the same things, time after time, year after year. Personally I prefer "variability" of my entertainment (for want of a better description). One of the things which I found surprising is, that if you look at the ratings for rerun channels you will find that reruns of reality-crap consistently out score, by quite some margin, reruns of drama (all types) and documentary I don't get it, but it's what the masses want Even more surprising are the figures for Talking Pictures. The most recent I can find is 3.5 million weekly views with a wide age range which suggest to me the main channels are out of touch with the audience. Once you get above a certain point, reach is not a particularly useful figure, as you can never get beyond 100%, but you can get continually increasing length of time per viewer BBC1 and BBC2 have very similar figures for reach, but BBC1 has 4 times the average minutes per day of BBC2 TP has approx the same number of minutes per viewer as BBC2, (if my mental arithmetic didn't fail me) |
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"Marland" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: "Bevan Price" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 12:56, tim... wrote: "Bevan Price" wrote in message ... On 31/03/2021 11:49, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote: Basil Jet wrote: filming a TV show called #SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown How is that an essential service? It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year? Anna Noyd-Dryver (OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years. It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious stories...... is your TV missing an OFF button? No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there were more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition of things long past their sell-by dates. So you really can't find anything of interest on one of the 57 channels (with nothing on!). A good proportion of those would have nothing to show if Adolf hadn’t invaded Poland. I agree I do wish they would make documentaries on other wars ;-) I know zip all about the minutiae of the Boer War or the Crimea War for example (all I know comes from a couple of Hollywood blockbuster movies - and we all know how inaccurate they can sometimes be) |
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"Anna Noyd-Dryver" wrote in message ... MB wrote: On 31/03/2021 23:38, Recliner wrote: Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and stays 2m apart? There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to record soap operas. One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real actress during the close-ups. Kylie Minogue recorded an online-only concert which has been livestreamed twice so far; she, the backing singers, the dancers and the crew are all socially-distanced on the set [1] - the exception [2] being those who are in a bubble together, either in a relationship or more likely living together in a shared house. didn't someone do an online concert where all the participants were each in their own individual studio? |
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In message , at 08:58:08 on Thu, 1 Apr 2021,
Anna Noyd-Dryver remarked: Recliner wrote: MB wrote: On 31/03/2021 23:38, Recliner wrote: Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and stays 2m apart? There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to record soap operas. One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real actress during the close-ups. I wasn't referring to Covid precautions on the shoot. I was asking about whether the supposedly contemporary story lines include shut pubs, no mixing indoors, staying 2m apart outdoors, and wearing masks? Part of the problem with that is that scenes are filmed (or in The Archers case, recorded) weeks or months in advance [1]. I don't know what the TV soaps did, but TA (initially at first, anyway - I haven't followed later developments) decided they'd be a fictional world without Covid - not least because they'd need to re-record months of material just as it became significantly more difficult to do so. The only one I've seen (and it's not from a very wide selection) is Casualty [I rate as a soap rather than a drama] and that seems to embrace COVID, but as medically themed you might expect them to make an extra effort. The same is true of USA-based hospital soaps vs others. [1] TA will occasionally re-record one scene at short notice to mention significant current events, but it wasn't considered practical to do that for the entire output at 3 days notice. Anna Noyd-Dryver -- Roland Perry |
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On 01/04/2021 12:34, tim... wrote:
I do wish they would make documentaries on other wars I just can't stand the American style of documentary. |
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:58:08 on Thu, 1 Apr 2021, Anna Noyd-Dryver remarked: Recliner wrote: MB wrote: On 31/03/2021 23:38, Recliner wrote: Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and stays 2m apart? There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to record soap operas. One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real actress during the close-ups. I wasn't referring to Covid precautions on the shoot. I was asking about whether the supposedly contemporary story lines include shut pubs, no mixing indoors, staying 2m apart outdoors, and wearing masks? Part of the problem with that is that scenes are filmed (or in The Archers case, recorded) weeks or months in advance [1]. I don't know what the TV soaps did, but TA (initially at first, anyway - I haven't followed later developments) decided they'd be a fictional world without Covid - not least because they'd need to re-record months of material just as it became significantly more difficult to do so. The only one I've seen (and it's not from a very wide selection) is Casualty [I rate as a soap rather than a drama] and that seems to embrace COVID, but as medically themed you might expect them to make an extra effort. The same is true of USA-based hospital soaps vs others. I suppose it also presents lots of story line opportunities they couldn't ignore. |
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On 01/04/2021 11:11, Marland wrote:
MB wrote: On 31/03/2021 23:38, Recliner wrote: Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and stays 2m apart? There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to record soap operas. One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real actress during the close-ups. I wonder if arrangements with Equity have been relaxed or some had to join, they used to be quite strict at one time . My one and only acting scene got around that as it was for a Brazilian production company and I found myself as part of a burial at sea party while we acted as a prop for an Italian emigrant ship to Brazil. About 32 mins in . https://youtu.be/VHupZR-GurE The production was I suppose what we call a docusoap and had huge audiences in South America , the lead actress was a lovely person , could speak four languages and no diva like qualities at all. She was equally happy prop building knocking bits of wood together with a hammer which was another example of the relaxed attitude of the Brazilian production crew. She took a shine to a younger colleague and invited him to the ranch she owned in Brazil where she bred horses, silly sod got cold feet and didn’t go. Graeme may be amused we had to remind an operator of a camera on a jib that even no smoke was coming out of the funnel at that particular moment it would not do it any good holding it above it being cooked . :-) -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
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