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In message , at 11:47:47 on Sun, 11 Apr
2021, Marland remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:15:18 on Sun, 11 Apr
2021, Graeme Wall remarked:

Rather than laying a whole new cable, can't the existing cable
supplying every house be used?

Not enough capacity and doesn't necessarily go where you think it
would.


I've lived in two village now where about half the houses are [still]
supplied by 240v wiring on poles, which looks a bit like phone cables,
unless you know better.


I would think it is actually 415v ( if you are using 240).

Were your villages still 4 individual wire for the 3 phases and earth
mounted vertically?


Yes.

A lot like ours has been replaced by ABC cable. Has the disadvantage you
can’t nick electricity using some welding cables with clamps a wooden
ladder and thick rubber gloves, no I wouldn’t do it but I knew a farmer who
did. It wasn’t the cost of electric so much as it was a convenient way to
get electricity to a lambing shed for a few weeks to run a heater.


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In message , at 14:16:50 on Sun, 11 Apr 2021,
Roland Perry remarked:
In message , at 11:47:47 on Sun, 11
Apr 2021, Marland remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:15:18 on Sun, 11 Apr
2021, Graeme Wall remarked:

Rather than laying a whole new cable, can't the existing cable
supplying every house be used?

Not enough capacity and doesn't necessarily go where you think it
would.

I've lived in two village now where about half the houses are [still]
supplied by 240v wiring on poles, which looks a bit like phone cables,
unless you know better.


I would think it is actually 415v ( if you are using 240).

Were your villages still 4 individual wire for the 3 phases and earth
mounted vertically?


Yes.

A lot like ours has been replaced by ABC cable. Has the disadvantage you
can’t nick electricity using some welding cables with clamps a wooden
ladder and thick rubber gloves, no I wouldn’t do it but I knew a farmer who
did. It wasn’t the cost of electric so much as it was a convenient way to
get electricity to a lambing shed for a few weeks to run a heater.


This is a pole not far from me:

http://www.perry.co.uk/images/overhead-wires.jpg

Which almost[1] hits the jackpot! Along the street are the 4-wires, to
two houses 2-wires, another a single twisted pair; and BT have bounced a
phone wire off it too.

[1] To do it fully you'd also need a street lamp on a bracket attached
to the same pole, but they don't seem to do that round here - I've
seen it in Essex though.
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:16:50 on Sun, 11 Apr 2021,
Roland Perry remarked:
In message , at 11:47:47 on Sun, 11
Apr 2021, Marland remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:15:18 on Sun, 11 Apr
2021, Graeme Wall remarked:

Rather than laying a whole new cable, can't the existing cable
supplying every house be used?

Not enough capacity and doesn't necessarily go where you think it
would.

I've lived in two village now where about half the houses are [still]
supplied by 240v wiring on poles, which looks a bit like phone cables,
unless you know better.

I would think it is actually 415v ( if you are using 240).

Were your villages still 4 individual wire for the 3 phases and earth
mounted vertically?


Yes.

A lot like ours has been replaced by ABC cable. Has the disadvantage you
can’t nick electricity using some welding cables with clamps a wooden
ladder and thick rubber gloves, no I wouldn’t do it but I knew a farmer who
did. It wasn’t the cost of electric so much as it was a convenient way to
get electricity to a lambing shed for a few weeks to run a heater.


This is a pole not far from me:

http://www.perry.co.uk/images/overhead-wires.jpg

Which almost[1] hits the jackpot! Along the street are the 4-wires, to
two houses 2-wires, another a single twisted pair; and BT have bounced a
phone wire off it too.

[1] To do it fully you'd also need a street lamp on a bracket attached
to the same pole, but they don't seem to do that round here - I've
seen it in Essex though.


Aah, a classic land surveyor's nightmare - you try fitting annotations for
TP EP LP (and SP if it has a road sign attached too!) around one dot on the
plan!


Anna Noyd-Dryver

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