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Bushey gap
Hi all,
According to the OS 1:25000 map, there is a stretch of undeveloped land by Larken drive at TQ 142 942. It is perfectly straight and runs both sides of Sparrows Herne (the A411). Is it connected with the abortive Northern Line extension? Or maybe it was a planned route for the M25? -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
Bushey gap
"John Rowland" wrote in message
... According to the OS 1:25000 map, there is a stretch of undeveloped land by Larken drive at TQ 142 942. It is perfectly straight and runs both sides of Sparrows Herne (the A411). Is it connected with the abortive Northern Line extension? Or maybe it was a planned route for the M25? Can't help with the reason, however from your description it's definitely not there in connexion with the Bushey Heath line. The BH extension would have run more-or-less straight from Edgware station to the A41/Spur Road roundabout (i.e. the roundabout to the east of Canons Corner), and then parallel to but just east of the A41 as far as the A5 roundabout at Elstree, where is would have curved west and run parallel with the A41 to the A411/A41 roundabout, where Bushey Heath station would have been. Larken Drive is a good 2km west of this; I've never seen any plan of the extension that took it anywhere near here. HTH. |
Bushey gap
John Rowland wrote:
Hi all, According to the OS 1:25000 map, there is a stretch of undeveloped land by Larken drive at TQ 142 942. It is perfectly straight and runs both sides of Sparrows Herne (the A411). Is it connected with the abortive Northern Line extension? Or maybe it was a planned route for the M25? How wide is it? Brad |
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"TheOneKEA" wrote in message
... John Rowland wrote: Hi all, According to the OS 1:25000 map, there is a stretch of undeveloped land by Larken drive at TQ 142 942. It is perfectly straight and runs both sides of Sparrows Herne (the A411). Is it connected with the abortive Northern Line extension? Or maybe it was a planned route for the M25? How wide is it? On the map it looks about 50 metres wide, but the built-on alignment north of Edgware looks nearly as wide on the 1:25000, and there is no way that that is anywhere near 50 metres wide. It looks a lot narrower than the green swathe through South Oxhey at Burnley Close, South Oxhey, which can also be seen in land boundaries at Wessex Drive in Hatch End, and was presumably left (for a while) for a northbound extension of George V Avenue, so maybe it's too narrow for a motorway. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
Bushey gap
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... "TheOneKEA" wrote in message ... John Rowland wrote: Hi all, According to the OS 1:25000 map, there is a stretch of undeveloped land by Larken drive at TQ 142 942. It is perfectly straight and runs both sides of Sparrows Herne (the A411). Is it connected with the abortive Northern Line extension? Or maybe it was a planned route for the M25? How wide is it? Go to http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/getamap/ and type in TQ142942 and see it for yourself. It looks a lot narrower than the green swathe through South Oxhey at Burnley Close, South Oxhey (This one is at TQ116923). -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
Bushey gap
"David Splett" wrote in message ... "John Rowland" wrote in message ... According to the OS 1:25000 map, there is a stretch of undeveloped land by Larken drive at TQ 142 942. It is perfectly straight and runs both sides of Sparrows Herne (the A411). Is it connected with the abortive Northern Line extension? Or maybe it was a planned route for the M25? In the Abercrombie Plan for the London region, issued about 1944, London was to have had five ring roads. The A Ring became the Euston Rd etc, the B ring, the infamous Motoway Box, the C Ring, the North Circular. Now there is also the M25, and the North Orbital Road. The M25 is sort of like the E ring, although between Potters Bar and Waltham Cross it's more like the D ring. I don't think any of the five rings were planned to motorway standard. The E Ring was to have been a scenic rural parkway through the Green Belt. I'm not sure exactly where the D Ring was originally planned to go, but know that a little bit east of Bushey it was planned to go along the top edge of the Borehamwood built up area. The gap might have been for the D ring. The D Ring looked as if it would have gone across just about every golf course in suburbia. I can't think why they never built it. Jeremy Parker |
Bushey gap
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wrote: In article , (John Rowland) wrote: Hi all, According to the OS 1:25000 map, there is a stretch of undeveloped land by Larken drive at TQ 142 942. It is perfectly straight and runs both sides of Sparrows Herne (the A411). Is it connected with the abortive Northern Line extension? Or maybe it was a planned route for the M25? -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes Go to: http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ for the first O/S maps series. Enter Edgware as the place name and then scroll the map down - view at 2 magnification. This shows the original line from Edgware, just follow it along by scrolling to the right and see if it matches with your blank spot. If you want to enter the co-ordinates, they are given on the map as: Grid Ref: 519761,191861 Roger Ignore this - I've just re-read it and realise that I misunderstood and thought you meant the old Mill Hill - Edgware line (TQ206915). Looking at By Tube Beyond Edgware, the extension effectively joins the North western Avenue (A41) at the junction with Stanmore Spur Road (A410) and follows it right to the terminus at Bushey - Elstree Road roundabout - the junction with the 411. The limit of the extension where it adjoins the Elstree Road is halfway along the reservoir.(TQ206915) Roger |
Bushey gap
"Jeremy Parker" wrote in message ... "John Rowland" wrote... According to the OS 1:25000 map, there is a stretch of undeveloped land by Larken drive at TQ 142 942. It is perfectly straight and runs both sides of Sparrows Herne (the A411). In the Abercrombie Plan for the London region, issued about 1944, London was to have had five ring roads. The gap might have been for the D ring. According to http://www.btinternet.com/~roads/lon_mway/GLP.GIF , the D ring was going to cross Sparrows Herne at exactly that location. Thanks! -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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