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TfL website:
The Piccadilly Line has no service between Acton Town Station and Hyde
Park Corner Station in both directions.
This will affect journeys from 16:25 on 25/06/04 until further notice.
This is due to an empty derailed train at Hammersmith Station.
If you are travelling to tonight's concert at Hyde Park, please travel
on the Jubilee or Victoria lines to Green Park, or on the Central Line
to Marble Arch, which are both a short walk from the concert.

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"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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TfL website:
The Piccadilly Line has no service between Acton Town Station and Hyde
Park Corner Station in both directions.
This will affect journeys from 16:25 on 25/06/04 until further notice.
This is due to an empty derailed train at Hammersmith Station.
If you are travelling to tonight's concert at Hyde Park, please travel
on the Jubilee or Victoria lines to Green Park, or on the Central Line
to Marble Arch, which are both a short walk from the concert.

Further info - 17 train service Cockfosters Hyde Park Corner, 9 train
service Acton Town Heathrow, 5 train service Acton Town Rayners Lane.
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Cheers, Steve.
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Steve Dulieu wrote:
"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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TfL website:
The Piccadilly Line has no service between Acton Town Station and Hyde
Park Corner Station in both directions.
This will affect journeys from 16:25 on 25/06/04 until further notice.
This is due to an empty derailed train at Hammersmith Station.
If you are travelling to tonight's concert at Hyde Park, please travel
on the Jubilee or Victoria lines to Green Park, or on the Central Line
to Marble Arch, which are both a short walk from the concert.


Further info - 17 train service Cockfosters Hyde Park Corner, 9 train
service Acton Town Heathrow, 5 train service Acton Town Rayners Lane.


Even more info:

Trains were backed up nose to tail at Ravenscourt Park, with section
switches opened at one point to detrain passengers.

The train derailed when entering the reversing siding east of Hammersmith.

Brad
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"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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TfL website:
The Piccadilly Line has no service between Acton Town Station and Hyde

Park Corner Station in both directions.

Where do trains which terminate at Hyde Park Corner switch from Southbound
to Northbound tracks for their return journey? What is the highest level of
frequency that can be provided north of Hyde Park Corner in circumstances
where all trains are turning back at Hyde Park Corner?
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In message , Sharon & Gordon Thomson
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"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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TfL website:
The Piccadilly Line has no service between Acton Town Station and Hyde

Park Corner Station in both directions.

Where do trains which terminate at Hyde Park Corner switch from Southbound
to Northbound tracks for their return journey?


According to Quail, there is a trailing crossover on the eastern side of
Hyde Park Corner station.
I'm guessing the crossovers between the fast and slow lines west of
Baron's court must be blocked by or too close to the derailed train as
the reason that some Picc trains are not using the slow (District) lines
to run some sort of service west of Hyde Park corner.
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"Sharon & Gordon Thomson" wrote in
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"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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TfL website:
The Piccadilly Line has no service between Acton Town Station and

Hyde
Park Corner Station in both directions.

Where do trains which terminate at Hyde Park Corner switch from Southbound
to Northbound tracks for their return journey? What is the highest level

of
frequency that can be provided north of Hyde Park Corner in circumstances
where all trains are turning back at Hyde Park Corner?


What was happening today was that all trains were tipping out at Green Park.
They were then running empty to Hyde Park Corner where the driver changed
ends in the westbound platform and then reversed back east over the
crossover, effectively using HPC WB platform as a reversing siding. Given
that we only ever ran 17 or so trains on the CKHPC bit of the line, this
didn't cause any problems with blocking back. Had we needed to, we could
have increased our reversing capacity by using Down Street, but as far as I
know the need didn't arise.
As for highest frequency of reversers at HPC, a good rule of thumb is to
take the time allowed for the T/Op to change ends (four minutes) plus one
for luck and call it one train every five minutes, or 12tph. BTW for all you
trainspotters, track bashers and other railway enthusiasts, from a trainside
operating POV the Piccadilly line *never* runs north south, it only ever
runs east west (no matter which point of the compass the leading cab is
actually facing).
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Cheers, Steve.
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In article , Spyke
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According to Quail, there is a trailing crossover on the eastern side
of Hyde Park Corner station.


Yes, you can actually see it from Down Street station.


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"Clive Page" wrote in message
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In article , Spyke
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According to Quail, there is a trailing crossover on the eastern side
of Hyde Park Corner station.


Yes, you can actually see it from Down Street station.


a) Down Street station is bricked up apart from a small section and
b) It's Down Street siding that can be seen to the west of the former
station.


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..
BTW for all you trainspotters, track bashers and other railway enthusiasts,

from a trainside
operating POV the Piccadilly line *never* runs north south, it only

ever
runs east west (no matter which point of the compass the leading cab is
actually facing).


Where does an westbound Heathrow train become eastbound? T4 ot T123?

Cheers

Matt


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In message , M J Forbes
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Where does an westbound Heathrow train become eastbound? T4 ot T123?


It's been said in here several times that T123 is the timetabling point.
However when I was on one such train recently I noticed that the
displays inside the carriage changed to "Cockfosters" at T4.
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