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Geoff Marshall wrote:
I did my usual journey last night home too!

Got to OXford Circus to go down to Waterloo at 8pm, and the
Bakerloo was running fine! A sign at OC said that "trains would
be stopping at 8pm", but I got on one at 8.02, and there were two
more after that displayed on Countdown !


There's quite a good service running this mornig as well .. it's
only the jubilee i think which doesn't have any service at all ...


Quite good considering there's a strike, but it's less than 20% of the
normal peak service. At 09:30, LU were reporting 95 trains in service,
compared with around 500 for a normal morning peak. In addition to the
Jubilee line closure, there are no Circle line trains, and some lines
have a token service, e.g. only Cockfosters-Arnos Grove on the
Piccadilly; no District trains west of Whitechapel except for a
Gunnersbury-Richmond shuttle.

N.B. These details are on LU's home page, http://tube.tfl.gov.uk , not
on the usual Live Travel News page.

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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Richard J. wrote:

Geoff Marshall wrote:

There's quite a good service running this mornig as well .. it's
only the jubilee i think which doesn't have any service at all ...


Quite good considering there's a strike, but it's less than 20% of the
normal peak service.


Who's driving them?

Anyway, roll on fully automated trains!

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In article , Tom Anderson wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Richard J. wrote:

Geoff Marshall wrote:

There's quite a good service running this mornig as well .. it's
only the jubilee i think which doesn't have any service at all ...


Quite good considering there's a strike, but it's less than 20% of the
normal peak service.


Who's driving them?


Ken and his minions?

Anyway, roll on fully automated trains!


Hmmmmmm. Even the DLR would probably be in trouble if the
conductors/Train Managers/whatever they're called went on strike.

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There's quite a good service running this mornig as well .. it's
only the jubilee i think which doesn't have any service at all ...


Quite good considering there's a strike, but it's less than 20% of the
normal peak service. At 09:30, LU were reporting 95 trains in service,
compared with around 500 for a normal morning peak. In addition to the
Jubilee line closure, there are no Circle line trains, and some lines
have a token service, e.g. only Cockfosters-Arnos Grove on the
Piccadilly; no District trains west of Whitechapel except for a
Gunnersbury-Richmond shuttle.

N.B. These details are on LU's home page, http://tube.tfl.gov.uk , not
on the usual Live Travel News page.

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Looking at the real time disruption map (http://map.tfl.gov.uk/realtime.asp)
site at 1245 on Wednesday gives the impression that only the Circle Line is
affected. This is not quite true as noted above and as can also currently be
seen from the descriptions on
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/service_rt_all.shtml. To imply that the
Piccadilly is unaffected when it only operates between Cockfosters and Arnos
Grove, or that the Central Line is operating normally when there is no
service west of Mile End, or that the Jubilee is unaffected when there is no
service south / east of Neasden is more than a little misleading.

The Gunnersbury - Richmond service referred to on the District Line is
presumably actually the Silverlink North Woolwich service? This means that
the District effectively has no service west of Whitechapel yet the real
time map shows no problems. Is this a bit of spin at work or simply a lack
of time to produce an accurate map at a time of uncertainty as to exactly
what might be operating?


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In article , Richard
J. wrote:

Anyone seen an LU train in the last hour?


I got a VERY empty Metropolitan line from Moorgate to Liverpool Street
at about 18:35 last night, so it hadn't started on the Met line then -
but given that the were running one of the bigger services this
morning, this makes sense.


Cheers,

Jason.


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J Lynch wrote:

The Gunnersbury - Richmond service referred to on the District Line
is presumably actually the Silverlink North Woolwich service?


LU say it's 2 trains at 20-minute intervals. I think it's likely that 2
District trains were stabled at Richmond overnight and are running a
shuttle service to and from Gunnersbury, under Network Rail signalling,
using ASLEF or rebel RMT drivers.
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"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Richard J. wrote:

Geoff Marshall wrote:

There's quite a good service running this mornig as well .. it's
only the jubilee i think which doesn't have any service at all ...


Quite good considering there's a strike, but it's less than 20% of the
normal peak service.


Who's driving them?

aslef drivers.

As usual the media are reporting "thousands of train drivers, signal and
engineering staff are on strike" Maybe they should report the facts. Its
mainly the station, signal and engineering staff" RMT members only make up
less than a 3rd of train ops. You'll find that the amount of staffed
stations is what's limiting the service in such a way. If they could found
more of the managers, and other staff to open the stations you would find
they would be a higher percentage of trains running. Not a full service but
a better one. Instead you'll find alot of drivers sitting around willing to
work.




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