Tom Anderson wrote:

Why couldn't a double-decker bendy have three doors, like a single-decker?



3 sets of doors on a double decker would leave very little space for
downstairs seating

"Stuart" wrote in message
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Tom Anderson wrote:

Why couldn't a double-decker bendy have three doors, like a
single-decker?

3 sets of doors on a double decker would leave very little space for
downstairs seating

Although the idea of a double-decker bendy is a non-starter for reasons
others have gone into in this thread there is no reason why a non-bendy
double-decker couldn't have three sets of doors. The only seating required
downstairs would be for the less able-bodied who couldn't climb the stairs.
For the rest of us we could go upstairs if we were going far on the route
and wanted to sit down, or we could stay downstairs and stand if we were
only going a short distance.

Dave.

"Dave Liney" wrote in message
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"Stuart" wrote in message
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Tom Anderson wrote:

Why couldn't a double-decker bendy have three doors, like a
single-decker?

3 sets of doors on a double decker would leave very little space for
downstairs seating

Although the idea of a double-decker bendy is a non-starter

Something to interest you at www.abbeyvision.co.uk/bus/bendy1.jpg then. :-)

Also www.abbeyvision.co.uk/bus/bendy2.jpg

"Dave Liney" typed


Although the idea of a double-decker bendy is a non-starter for reasons
others have gone into in this thread there is no reason why a non-bendy
double-decker couldn't have three sets of doors. The only seating required
downstairs would be for the less able-bodied who couldn't climb the stairs.
For the rest of us we could go upstairs if we were going far on the route
and wanted to sit down, or we could stay downstairs and stand if we were
only going a short distance.

Yebbut the able-bodied *don't* bother to use the steps, crowding the
lower deck, making life difficult for those who can't use stairs and
making efficient filling of the bus impossible.

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Although the idea of a double-decker bendy is a non-starter for reasons
others have gone into in this thread there is no reason why a non-bendy
double-decker couldn't have three sets of doors.

Don't some Blackpool trams have four sets of doors and two staircases?

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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:43:22 +0100, Stuart
wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote:

Why couldn't a double-decker bendy have three doors, like a single-decker?

3 sets of doors on a double decker would leave very little space for
downstairs seating

depends on how big the bus is. Berlin seem to be happy about such an
idea
http://www.mn.man.de/index/MAN-Nutzf...ews/pt212e.htm

I know people will say "they don't fit on london streets" but given that
tour bus operators happily run ex Hong Kong 12m buses all over the
central area you'll excuse me if I'm a tad cynical about TfL's refusal
to use such buses.

Buses of all sizes and configurations have their place in an operation
to size of London's. Big double decks would do very well on routes like
the 25, 29 or 253/4 where there is a balance between short and long
trips. I would prefer to see them on a route like the 73 as well but
alas that is not going to happen. I'll just wait for the moment two
bendies meet at the junction of Church St and Albion Rd in Stoke
Newington and see how long it takes for the bendies to untangle
themselves :-)
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"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
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depends on how big the bus is.
Berlin seem to be happy about such an idea
http://www.mn.man.de/index/MAN-Nutzf...ews/pt212e.htm

I would prefer to see them on a route like the 73
as well but alas that is not going to happen.
I'll just wait for the moment two bendies meet
at the junction of Church St and Albion Rd in
Stoke Newington and see how long it takes
for the bendies to untangle themselves :-)

I doubt that a single Big Yellow One would get around that corner.

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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:33:07 +0100, "John Rowland"
wrote:

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
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depends on how big the bus is.
Berlin seem to be happy about such an idea
http://www.mn.man.de/index/MAN-Nutzf...ews/pt212e.htm

I would prefer to see them on a route like the 73
as well but alas that is not going to happen.
I'll just wait for the moment two bendies meet
at the junction of Church St and Albion Rd in
Stoke Newington and see how long it takes
for the bendies to untangle themselves :-)

I doubt that a single Big Yellow One would get around that corner.

Did I say it would? ;-)
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Paul Corfield wrote in
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:43:22 +0100, Stuart
wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote:

Why couldn't a double-decker bendy have three doors, like a
single-decker?

3 sets of doors on a double decker would leave very little space for
downstairs seating

depends on how big the bus is. Berlin seem to be happy about such an
idea
http://www.mn.man.de/index/MAN-Nutzf...ews/pt212e.htm


Also worth mentioning that the Berlin double deckers have two staircases as
well yet still manage more seats downstairs than some current London
designs - the staircases are curved, as London's always were before LT
insisted that they be straight.

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:43:22 +0100, Stuart
wrote:

3 sets of doors on a double decker would leave very little space for
downstairs seating

Only because they're too short. Why not build them the length of the
longest (non-bendy) single-decker that will fit the routes they
operate?

There are some *huge* ones in Berlin.

Incidentally, in Brussels at the weekend I noticed that more or less
all the (single-decker) buses were low floor more or less throughout
with 3 sets of doors, one right at the back, and were mid-engined. I
wonder why that's never made it to the UK. Surely the engine could be
accommodated under/by the stairs in a decker, perhaps with the
(front?) wheels individually driven in some way?

Neil

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