"Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote in message
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 19:34:08 +0100, "Ian F."
wrote in message :

I'm not claiming it *is* clever. It's just my daft little protest against
people using our roads who don't pay for them! ;-)

Ah, so you haven't heard that cyclists have above-average income, are
more likely to own a house, a car and any other measure of material
wealth except a satellite dish (and that's probably changed now the
Tour is on ITV2). In other words, cyclists probably pay more tax than
you do. And then leave the car at home - smart people!

I'm getting a feeling of deja-vu

I do drive my vehicle correctly. And I'm not tense, or stressed, or prone
to
flagellatory flights of fancy. I just hate cyclists and the way they
(present company excepted) reckon they own the road - riding on the
pavement, jumping red lights, yelling abuse at elderly people and so on.

Ah, so you are going to break your word and drive incorrectly (i.e.
illegally) based on the behaviour of a small group of cyclists who,
incidentally, are every bit as unpopular with us cyclists as they are
with cagers.

I wouldn't classify them as a small group, especially in London.

Do you not think that the best way to make the roads a better place is
to set a good example, rather than try and out-idiot the idiots?

Ahh, sense.

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 19:04:41 +0100, "Paul Weaver"
wrote in message
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I'm getting a feeling of deja-vu

Can I help it if cager trolls are sufficiently uninventive as to
require the same reply each time? ;-)

Ah, so you are going to break your word and drive incorrectly (i.e.
illegally) based on the behaviour of a small group of cyclists who,
incidentally, are every bit as unpopular with us cyclists as they are
with cagers.

I wouldn't classify them as a small group, especially in London.

The main problem as far as I can see it is that London is mistaken for
the general situation by most journos. Where I am, the majority of
cyclists ride completely legally. Those who do not are mainly teenage
boys, a groups not noted for their compliance with regulations in any
area - and I'd rather they were on bikes than in cars.

Guy
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"Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote in message
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cager

?

trolls

Not me, young feller-me-lad. Been a regular on utl and several other groups
since God was a boy.

Ian

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 12:27:36 +0100, "Ian F."
wrote in message :

cager
?
trolls

Not me, young feller-me-lad. Been a regular on utl and several other groups
since God was a boy.

Maybe, maybe not. Fact is, the "cyclists don't pay" argument is a
cager troll, whoever posts it :-)

Guy
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88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University

"Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote in message
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Fact is, the "cyclists don't pay" argument is a
cager troll, whoever posts it :-)

smiley noted

Still don't know what a cager is.

Not sure it's a troll if posted to uk.transport.london (which I did) - maybe
it would be on uk.rec.cycling

To me, it's a fair and just observation.

Ian

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 11:54:18 +0100, "Ian F."
wrote in message :

Still don't know what a cager is.

It's a motorcyclists' term for car drivers, specifically those whose
attitude is defined by the fact that they are surrounded by a strong
steel cage.

To me, it's a fair and just observation.

And to us it's a troll, and a hoary old one at that :-)

Guy
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"Ian F." wrote in
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"Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote in message
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Fact is, the "cyclists don't pay" argument is a
cager troll, whoever posts it :-)

smiley noted

Still don't know what a cager is.

Someone who sits in a cage.

To me, it's a fair and just observation.

You missed off irrelevant.

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Chris