Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

Riding in the smoke the other day along one of those
hellish contraflow cycle lanes bounded by high kerbs (so overtaking
was almost impossible) a long line of cyclists finally managed to pass
an 8mph old codger on a gas-pipe Raleigh

Remember, the speed limit is a limit, not a target.

, only to have him wobble straight past, across a red light and into
the next section ahead of the line.

This bit was the only thing he did wrong.

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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:58:25 +0100, Keith Willoughby
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, only to have him wobble straight past, across a red light and into
the next section ahead of the line.

This bit was the only thing he did wrong.

It was the thing he did wrong. If you were driving a tractor and a
long queue of cars had finally managed to pass you, would you then
trundle past them all at the next set of lights and drop back in
front? It's a narrow, constrained lane, and he was riding smack in
the middle (if people move over there is room to pass). Held up once?
No problem at all. Held up and then he passes the queue and drops
back in front? ******. Add the red light jumping? Death is too
good for him!

Guy
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:58:25 +0100, Keith Willoughby
wrote in message
:

, only to have him wobble straight past, across a red light and into
the next section ahead of the line.

This bit was the only thing he did wrong.

It was the thing he did wrong.

[...]

You made a point of noting he was doing 8 mph on a "gas-pipe Raleigh". I
think it would be a shame if we gave the impression that people who do 8
MPH on gas-pipe Raleighs somehow didn't belong on the road just because
they delay your journey.

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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:49:54 +0100, Keith Willoughby
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You made a point of noting he was doing 8 mph on a "gas-pipe Raleigh". I
think it would be a shame if we gave the impression that people who do 8
MPH on gas-pipe Raleighs somehow didn't belong on the road just because
they delay your journey.

They can delay me (and the rest of the queue) once, no problem. But
having delayed us, and having finally been passed, going to the front
of the queue at the next stop, particularly by breaking the law, is
downright ignorant.

Guy
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

They can delay me (and the rest of the queue) once, no problem. But
having delayed us, and having finally been passed, going to the front
of the queue at the next stop, particularly by breaking the law, is
downright ignorant.


So you are against ASLs for cyclists then? Having been passed they
should wait their place in the queue at the next lights.

Tony

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 15:22:36 +0100, Tony Raven
wrote in message :

They can delay me (and the rest of the queue) once, no problem. But
having delayed us, and having finally been passed, going to the front
of the queue at the next stop, particularly by breaking the law, is
downright ignorant.

So you are against ASLs for cyclists then? Having been passed they
should wait their place in the queue at the next lights.

Actually I usually wait my turn at lights, but it is rarely difficult
for a car to pass a cyclist.

Guy
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:58:25 +0100, Keith Willoughby
wrote in message
:

, only to have him wobble straight past, across a red light and
into the next section ahead of the line.

This bit was the only thing he did wrong.

It was the thing he did wrong.

You made a point of noting he was doing 8 mph on a "gas-pipe Raleigh".
I think it would be a shame if we gave the impression that people who
do 8 MPH on gas-pipe Raleighs somehow didn't belong on the road just
because they delay your journey.

People who jump lights don't belong on the road whether with a gas pipe
Raleigh of an all-carbon Colnago.

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