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Colin Rosenstiel September 16th 04 04:11 PM

Route 73 - New service levels
 
In article ,
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

We were 16 minutes late by this point and the
bus was curtailed at Marble Arch in consequence.


Yes, I've noticed Marble Arch as a destination on 73s only since the
retirement of the Routemasters.


And Park Lane on the one I saw in New Oxford St this afternoon around
15:20. I saw one with a Victoria destination this morning.

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Colin Rosenstiel

David Boothroyd September 16th 04 05:26 PM

Route 73 - New service levels
 
In article
,
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
In article ,
(David Boothroyd) wrote:

Indeed. Come to think of it there's also one in Whitehall/Parliament
Street to give buses a better chance at the Parliament Square lights.


Actually it's at the entrance to Derby Gate (outside the Red Lion),
just before Parliament Square. It's really annoying too as I often
get trapped there when the lights change.


That's the one. Trapped how? I cycle through it quite regularly now.


Trapped by going across the empty bus lane just as the lights change
and the two lanes of general traffic start moving.

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Colin Rosenstiel September 16th 04 08:16 PM

Route 73 - New service levels
 
In article ,
(David Boothroyd) wrote:

In article
,
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
In article ,
(David Boothroyd) wrote:

Indeed. Come to think of it there's also one in
Whitehall/Parliament Street to give buses a better chance at the
Parliament Square lights.

Actually it's at the entrance to Derby Gate (outside the Red Lion),
just before Parliament Square. It's really annoying too as I often
get trapped there when the lights change.


That's the one. Trapped how? I cycle through it quite regularly now.


Trapped by going across the empty bus lane just as the lights change
and the two lanes of general traffic start moving.


Unless you are turning right there why would you care that much? I don't,
even this morning when the traffic was stationary and bunched a bit
awkwardly.

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Colin Rosenstiel

Martin Rich September 17th 04 06:45 AM

Route 73 - New service levels
 
On 10 Sep 2004 02:36:12 -0700, (Tim) wrote:

At the end of the first week of operation of the route 73 benders,
here's a few notes I have made on the level of service:


snip


Conclusion: These are all trips I could have completed easily on a 73
two weeks ago; compared to the service on RouteMasters, the
bender-operated 73 route is appaling if your want to get to/from Seven
Sisters.


For what it's worth, my limited experience so far. One short trip
from Tottenham Court Road station, was a fair bit slower than it would
have been on a Routemaster. Partly this was a case of the driver
taking it gingerly, but there was also a long wait at a stop, I think
while some passengers struggled with the roadside ticket machines. We
also had a very slow entry to the bus station at Euston.

The impression once inside the bus isn't all bad: the noise level is
low, and the ride is very good at least for those fortunate enough to
have a forward-facing seat. The quality of the materials used for the
interior seems better than those of other new buses.

There seems to be very little space to move around near the front
door, so quick boarding clearly depends on most people using the other
two doors to get in. Therefore I would expect boarding to be a become
a bit quicker as passengers get more used to the bus.

This wasn't a particularly crowded bus and I'm fairly sure there were
no seats free.

Martin

Steve September 18th 04 03:16 PM

Route 73 - New service levels
 
In article , Adrian
writes
Neil Williams ) gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying :

That turn seems tight in a Routemaster, never mind a bendy or
full-size decker


The one at the top of Kingsway, turning from High Holborn is quite
entertaining for a bendy, too - and that one's on the first route to go
bendy, whichever number it was (500?)

They seem to manage to overhang the kerbs and scrape the barriers on both
sides simultaneously.


521.

I use that from Holborn Circus to Waterloo on a regular basis (I used
the Greenway Nationals before the Citaros, too) and have never seen one
having a problem on that corner. Coming back from Waterloo is fun, too -
the underpass is like a fairground ride if you take the back seat of a
bendi.

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Richard J. September 18th 04 04:19 PM

Route 73 - New service levels
 
Steve wrote:
In article ,
Adrian writes
Neil Williams ) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

That turn seems tight in a Routemaster, never mind a bendy or
full-size decker


The one at the top of Kingsway, turning from High Holborn is quite
entertaining for a bendy, too - and that one's on the first route
to go bendy, whichever number it was (500?)

They seem to manage to overhang the kerbs and scrape the barriers
on both sides simultaneously.


521.

I use that from Holborn Circus to Waterloo on a regular basis (I
used the Greenway Nationals before the Citaros, too) and have
never seen one having a problem on that corner. Coming back from
Waterloo is fun, too - the underpass is like a fairground ride
if you take the back seat of a bendi.


I believe they take that route (through the Kingsway Underpass) only in
peak hours. Do you know the actual times for the evening peak?

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Aidan Stanger September 20th 04 04:23 AM

Route 73 - New service levels
 
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
(John Rowland) wrote:
"Dr. Sunil" wrote...
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote...

Precisely. They're building a bus gate in Gower Street.

Is that something on the lines of the rising bollard type in
Cambridge?

....and East Ham!

I doubt it. I think he means a traffic island between the bus lane and
the traffic lanes, with separate traffic lights for the buses and the
traffic.


Indeed. Come to think of it there's also one in Whitehall/Parliament
Street to give buses a better chance at the Parliament Square lights.


IIRC there's also one in Crayford, for eastbound buses only.


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