Are tube drivers allowed to have a non-LUL pal in the cab with them and
let them press the buttons that make the train go?

I presume not, though I saw it happen yesterday - it was a really old
guy, maybe the driver's father-in-law or something), and as I was
sitting in the front carriage, I could hear things like "oooh!" and
"you've just made the train go!".

I'm not going to say where this happened, as the old guy was obviously
totally ecstatic to be allowed to do it - but I just presume it's not
exactly a regular occurrence?!

You sure it was`nt old Mr Livingston........????

Alek wrote:
You sure it was`nt old Mr Livingston........????

Hehe, only if he's *really* aged!

Train Ops have terrible silly sense of humour.....it helps to pass the time.
It could have been a Duty Manager, they dont wear the blue uniform anymore
and some are really old.
But the actual answer is NO. Distraction is a big issue. No one is allowed
in the cab unless on company business. And even off duty staff (managers
included), can be refused entry by the operator.

"Dave Newt" newtonline{AT}gmail.com wrote in message
t.net...


Alek wrote:
You sure it was`nt old Mr Livingston........????

Hehe, only if he's *really* aged!

"Malcolm & Nika"
And even off duty staff (managers
included), can be refused entry by the operator.

"Dave Newt"

bone of contention here! An off duty Manager with a cab pass - some still
reckon they are always "on duty" -
Therefore if an incident requires it they enter the cab despite all the
refusals in the world from the T/Op who is powerless. Then have you
forgotten the NVQ assessors with the TDLB [Training and Development Lead
Body] D32/33 certification? they can just come in anytime they want to and
these include some Instructor Operators too!

redT

Its your cab....you can refuse.....More incidents happen because of a
distraction in the cab than for any other reason.

"redtube" wrote in message
...

"Malcolm & Nika"
And even off duty staff (managers
included), can be refused entry by the operator.

"Dave Newt"

bone of contention here! An off duty Manager with a cab pass - some still
reckon they are always "on duty" -
Therefore if an incident requires it they enter the cab despite all the
refusals in the world from the T/Op who is powerless. Then have you
forgotten the NVQ assessors with the TDLB [Training and Development Lead
Body] D32/33 certification? they can just come in anytime they want to
and
these include some Instructor Operators too!

redT

Malcolm & Nika wrote:

Train Ops have terrible silly sense of humour.....it helps to pass the time.
It could have been a Duty Manager, they dont wear the blue uniform anymore
and some are really old.

No - it definitely wasn't, but I'm not going to describe the situation
in detail

But the actual answer is NO. Distraction is a big issue. No one is allowed
in the cab unless on company business. And even off duty staff (managers
included), can be refused entry by the operator.

That's what I figured.

Thanks,

In article ,
newtonline{AT}gmail.com (Dave Newt) wrote:


Are tube drivers allowed to have a non-LUL pal in the cab with them and
let them press the buttons that make the train go?

I presume not, though I saw it happen yesterday - it was a really old
guy, maybe the driver's father-in-law or something), and as I was
sitting in the front carriage, I could hear things like "oooh!" and
"you've just made the train go!".

I'm not going to say where this happened, as the old guy was obviously
totally ecstatic to be allowed to do it - but I just presume it's not
exactly a regular occurrence?!


There has always been the rule that "no unauthorised persons are allowed
to remain in the cab" and, because of the SPAD situation, this is much
more rigorously enforced these days. There are times when non staff ride
in the cab and, indeed, I have (officially) taken several hundred people
in this way over the past years varying from a few stations to a complete
day. The people have been from all walks of life an all ages and they've
certainly enjoyed the experience. It's also something I enjoy doing.

Sometimes cab rides are arranged as a special treat for children and these
are sometimes covered in "On The Move".

Because of the problems with distraction, people that have a cab ride
normally go with Instructor Operators who are used to having other people
(trainees) in the cab.

All persons should be in possession of a cab pass and these are now issued
for a specific period of time (e.g. one day) to cover this.



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