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On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 03:22:13 -0800, Matthew Church wrote:

"By 2004, the DVLA aims to have merged driver, vehicle and insurance
records into a "single or virtually single" database from which the
number-plate microchips will be programmed".

http://www.geocities.com/lclane2/microchips.html

Anyone have any updates on how this plan is getting along?


Well, the last I heard (and there's about 45 days left in 2004) you
couldn't buy Microchipped plates.

If true it's a typical Public Sector IT project i.e. it doesn't work.

It will annoy a lot of people, and the chips will be as tamper proof as
the others, i.e. not at all. Or people will simply bust them (can you
imagine the amount of hammering electronics on a car number plate will
take).

Or you could simply fake a plate that looks like a real one - so how

will
the "automatic detection" know if a car is there or not ?

How will it cope with people who are insured rather than cars - people

on
company insurance ?

How will it know the driver is insured to drive the car - all it will

know
is that there is *some* insurance on the car.

It can't surely store "insurance validity" - if you cancel insurance

will
you detach the plates and take them in so they can be reprogrammed ?

What will happen regarding foreign registered vehicles ?

Getting Microchips for £1.00 is no problem ; hell they are cheaper than
that. Getting something that will work and keep working for £1.00 is a
different matter entirely.

And
that is why all cars should have a tachometer,
that is taken into the post office every year and any outstanding speeding
fines , parking tickets and indicator abuse can be payed up to date with
neccasary points added to your licence etc etc etc.

Thus the post office would survive
the criminal car driver would'nt thrive,
and more pedestrians would stay alive.

thats ********, the post office survives anyway
"criminal car drivers" can simply get the license plate changed to a
registered one or just take in a registered number plate and more
pedestrians wouldnt stay alive, think about it; nobody will know that the
pedestrian will get run over until it happens, until then you cant stop it
happening without affecting the majority, and after its happened theyre
going to drive much more carefully and i highly doubt it would happen twice.
the government should not be allowed to govern our lives to this extent, its
a threat to the security of our society.
also what if the tachometer stops working?
what about foreign cars?
what about car manufacturers that decide not to put them into their cars?
they cant be shut down, most of them are foreign and they cant shut down a
car manufacturer n the UK, think of the job losses and tax losses


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what about car manufacturers that decide not to put them into their cars?
they cant be shut down, most of them are foreign and they cant shut down a
car manufacturer n the UK, think of the job losses and tax losses


WTF are you on about? That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
However, given your unsucessful atempts to produce sentences in English,
your comment does not come as a complete surprise.

Are you seriously suggesting that if a car manufacturer decides to produce
a car that does not confirm to UK legal standards (e.g. they decide that
the indicators do not look good on their new car, so they don't bother
putting
them on) that the government will be unable to stop these cars from being
used legally? The government sets legal standards for motor vehicles. If
manufacturers do not produce vehicles that abide by those standards,
then they cannot be used on the public highway, simple as that.

Matt


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In message , Matthew
Maddock writes
If manufacturers do not produce vehicles that abide by those
standards, then they cannot be used on the public highway, simple as
that.

Matt

That'll be why the government can't stop Citroen from fitting asbestos
brake pads then.
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Clive Coleman ) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

That'll be why the government can't stop Citroen from fitting asbestos
brake pads then.


I'm sorry?

a. Citroen don't make brake pads.
b. Citroen brake pads don't differ from Peugeot brake bads.
c. Asbestos brake pads haven't been manufactured for years. For any
manufacturer. OEM or pattern.
d. That's nothing to do with the UK government anyway. Type approval's EU
wide.
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"Matthew Maddock" wrote in message
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what about car manufacturers that decide not to put them into their cars?
they cant be shut down, most of them are foreign and they cant shut down
a
car manufacturer n the UK, think of the job losses and tax losses


WTF are you on about? That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
However, given your unsucessful atempts to produce sentences in English,
your comment does not come as a complete surprise.

Are you seriously suggesting that if a car manufacturer decides to produce
a car that does not confirm to UK legal standards (e.g. they decide that
the indicators do not look good on their new car, so they don't bother
putting
them on) that the government will be unable to stop these cars from being
used legally? The government sets legal standards for motor vehicles. If
manufacturers do not produce vehicles that abide by those standards,
then they cannot be used on the public highway, simple as that.

Matt

simple way round the problem , do as many truck companies do now register
your vehicle in another eu state end of problem




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simple way round the problem , do as many truck companies do now register
your vehicle in another eu state end of problem


You won't be able to insure it.


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simple way round the problem , do as many truck companies do now
register
your vehicle in another eu state end of problem


You won't be able to insure it. yes you will how do you think the trucking
companies get on



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