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Boltar December 9th 04 02:15 PM

Northern line radios
 

Malcolm & Nika wrote:
Boltar....we cant keep meeting like this.
Thats a very good question and one that I am sure is being asked in

higher
places as we type. However its nothing to do with LUL. They dont own

a train

Problem is its very easy to ask questions and appear like you're
concerned
and trying to do something about the issue (politicians know all about
this),
but extracting head from arse and *actually* doing something is another
matter
entirely.

radio system but they do pay someone else to supply one. Its supplied

and
maintained by private enterprise and they promise it will be ok.


I've heard the PPP contracts are to be included in the next issue of
1001 Worlds Best Jokes.

I thought thats what you wanted?
But because its you, i'll see what i can find.

You're too kind. But which one of you should I thank?

B2003


Boltar December 9th 04 02:15 PM

Northern line radios
 

Malcolm & Nika wrote:
Boltar....we cant keep meeting like this.
Thats a very good question and one that I am sure is being asked in

higher
places as we type. However its nothing to do with LUL. They dont own

a train

Problem is its very easy to ask questions and appear like you're
concerned
and trying to do something about the issue (politicians know all about
this),
but extracting head from arse and *actually* doing something is another
matter
entirely.

radio system but they do pay someone else to supply one. Its supplied

and
maintained by private enterprise and they promise it will be ok.


I've heard the PPP contracts are to be included in the next issue of
1001 Worlds Greatest Jokes.

I thought thats what you wanted?
But because its you, i'll see what i can find.

You're too kind. But which one of you should I thank?

B2003


Robert Woolley December 9th 04 06:30 PM

Northern line radios
 
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:26:13 -0000, "Garry Smith"
wrote:

"Boltar" wrote in message

Seems like a pretty good system and I guess you can understand why
running a service without it would be difficult.


Out of curiosity, how did the service operate before the use
of these radios? Two men in the cab, or a less thorough
approach to safety?


Guards.


Rob.
--
rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk

Malcolm & Nika December 10th 04 07:34 AM

Northern line radios
 
Which one....??? what you mean??? I've got a split personality.

"Boltar" wrote in message
oups.com...

Malcolm & Nika wrote:
Boltar....we cant keep meeting like this.
Thats a very good question and one that I am sure is being asked in

higher
places as we type. However its nothing to do with LUL. They dont own

a train

Problem is its very easy to ask questions and appear like you're
concerned
and trying to do something about the issue (politicians know all about
this),
but extracting head from arse and *actually* doing something is another
matter
entirely.

radio system but they do pay someone else to supply one. Its supplied

and
maintained by private enterprise and they promise it will be ok.


I've heard the PPP contracts are to be included in the next issue of
1001 Worlds Greatest Jokes.

I thought thats what you wanted?
But because its you, i'll see what i can find.

You're too kind. But which one of you should I thank?

B2003




Garry Smith December 10th 04 08:06 AM

Northern line radios
 
"Robert Woolley" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:26:13 -0000, "Garry Smith"
wrote:

"Boltar" wrote in message

Seems like a pretty good system and I guess you can understand why
running a service without it would be difficult.


Out of curiosity, how did the service operate before the use
of these radios? Two men in the cab, or a less thorough
approach to safety?


Guards.


Duh! Of course. Thanks for politely answering such a dumb
question.
--
Garry Smith



[email protected] December 10th 04 06:11 PM

Northern line radios
 
In article ,
(Robert Woolley) wrote:

On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:26:13 -0000, "Garry Smith"
wrote:

"Boltar" wrote in message

Seems like a pretty good system and I guess you can understand why
running a service without it would be difficult.


Out of curiosity, how did the service operate before the use
of these radios? Two men in the cab, or a less thorough
approach to safety?


Guards.


Rob.
--
rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk



Yes

If the driver collapsed, the Guard would, after he realised nothing was
happening (or the deadman operated)and couldn't get a reply from the
driver, the Guard would just kick him out of the way and drive the train
to the next station. Then, if no spare driver was available the Guard
would detrain and take the train away after the driver had been taken off.
Not too much time lost and only one train affected, other than trains
behind being held up.

Now, there is a 1½ minute delay before the Line Controller gets the OPO
alarm, a further delay while he tries to contact the driver and probably
quite a considerable delay while the trains behind are leapfrogged until a
spare driver is got to the scene.

That's progress :-)

Roger

Robin May December 11th 04 12:23 PM

Northern line radios
 
wrote the following in:


If the driver collapsed, the Guard would


That's no help!

--
message by Robin May. That egotism was getting old.

Americans who voted for Bush: you ****ed up.

http://robinmay.fotopic.net

Steve Dulieu December 12th 04 01:40 PM

Northern line radios
 

"Robin May" wrote in message
...
wrote the following in:


If the driver collapsed, the Guard would


That's no help!

The full job title for a Guard was Guard, Emergency Train Driver.



Colin Rosenstiel December 12th 04 08:59 PM

Northern line radios
 
In article ,
(David Walters) wrote:

What is it about the Northern line train radios not working that
stops the usual service pattern (particularly trains from both
Edgware and High Barnet taking both central branches) from running?


Does anyone know what the fault with the train radios was? I used to work
in the business and there are technology issues with train radios in
general (I don't know about the Northern Line) which suggest that quite
modern equipment is becoming obsolete and therefore hard to maintain.

--
Colin Rosenstiel


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