The Piccadilly trains were brought in 1975?! Blimey. They look lovely
compared to the "newer" District line trains. If the district line
trains are almost the last to be renewed, why do they looks so crappy
compared to all of the other "slimline trains". I'd rather just have
Piccadilly fast looking slimline trains on the district line that
those huge slow things

Brimstone wrote:
Dan Watson wrote:
Now that the tube prices have skyrocketed, does anyone know of any
plans to upgrade the District Line trains. These carriages look
like
they have been in service since time itself began.

Even if there are no plans to upgrade the trains, why not just give
them a lick of paint? The old dirty grey carriages look horrific
next
to the nice Picadilly line trains at early Hammersmith, earls court
etc

Maybe its just a Sunday afternoon moan, but doesn't anyone else
agree
that it's time to bring the District Line out of the stone age?

The trains currently in use on the District were brought into service
in
1980 and are last in line for refurbishment because they were the
last
(apart from the current Central and Northern Line trains) to be
introduced.

You'll be pleased to learn that a refurbishment programme, to bring
them up
to the same appearance as the Piccadilly Line trains (introduced in
1975).

StaticFish wrote:
The Piccadilly trains were brought in 1975?! Blimey. They look
lovely compared to the "newer" District line trains.

That's because they've already been refurbished.

If the district line trains are almost the last to be renewed, why do
they looks so crappy compared to all of the other "slimline
trains".

They are the last ones that currently need refurbishment. The Central,
Jubilee and Northern lines have stock dating from 1992-96, so don't yet
need refurbishment. The District Line trains look shabby because they
are unpainted aluminium that has suffered from graffiti removal
chemicals, whereas all other trains are painted.

I'd rather just have Piccadilly fast looking slimline
trains on the district line that those huge slow things

They are no slower than most other trains. I think the top speed is 50
mph compared with the Piccadilly's 45 mph. Acceleration is at least as
good as the Piccadilly trains, based on my experience of simultaneous
departures from Hammersmith.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

StaticFish wrote:
The Piccadilly trains were brought in 1975?! Blimey. They look lovely
compared to the "newer" District line trains.

The Piccadilly Line trains were refurbished in the mid 1990s. Prior to that
they too were unpainted aluminium as were all trains. The only reason LU
trains are painted at all is because of the increase in the amount of
graffitti over the last 15-20 years or so.

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(Brimstone) wrote:

StaticFish wrote:
The Piccadilly trains were brought in 1975?! Blimey. They look lovely
compared to the "newer" District line trains.

The Piccadilly Line trains were refurbished in the mid 1990s. Prior to
that they too were unpainted aluminium as were all trains. The only
reason LU trains are painted at all is because of the increase in the
amount of graffitti over the last 15-20 years or so.

The irony is not lost on some of us.

When I were a lad in Putney, Underground trains were painted red (and
Southern trains were green). Then came unpainted aluminium on one R stock
District train in 1953, three prototypes on the Piccadilly in 1956 and
more R stock in 1959. Several tons were saved from the weight of the
paint, they said.

After that all underground stock gradually became unpainted aluminium as
new stock was introduced and red-painted stock withdrawn (or painted
silver in the case of the remaining R stock). With the introduction of the
D stock in 1980 the change to unpainted aluminium was complete.

Then LT discovered they had a graffiti problem and started painting trains
again until now the D stock is the last that is still unpainted.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
Several tons were saved from the weight of the paint, they said.

Makes you wonder what some of the trains on the National Rail system
must weight then, with these TOCs repainting trains more often than needed.

--
Darren

Sudbury Branch Line website: http://www.sudbury-branchline.co.uk
http://photos.darrenjohnson.co.uk

StaticFish wrote:
The Piccadilly trains were brought in 1975?! Blimey. They look lovely
compared to the "newer" District line trains. If the district line
trains are almost the last to be renewed, why do they looks so
crappy
compared to all of the other "slimline trains". I'd rather just have
Piccadilly fast looking slimline trains on the district line that
those huge slow things

To be honest I rather like "those huge slow things". They fit more
people in