I notice that there is some activity around the proposed site for the new
White City station on the Hammersmith & City line.
Does anyone know if they are starting work on this, and what the lkely
completion date is?

Also - any news on the new Shepherds Bush station on the West London line?

Slim

Slim wrote:
I notice that there is some activity around the proposed site for the
new
White City station on the Hammersmith & City line.
Does anyone know if they are starting work on this, and what the
lkely
completion date is?

Also - any news on the new Shepherds Bush station on the West London
line?

http://www.alwaystouchout.com/project/24 and links therefrom. As I
understand it this is all going to be going live 'Summer 2005'. Network
maps in tube stations already show Imperial Wharf and Shepherds Bush
WLL stations as '* opening summer 2005'.

I think yesterday's "Homes and Property" supplement to the Standard
included a couple of pages on the White City project.

--
Larry Lard
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Larry Lard wrote:

http://www.alwaystouchout.com/project/24 and links therefrom. As I
understand it this is all going to be going live 'Summer 2005'.
Network maps in tube stations already show Imperial Wharf and
Shepherds
Bush WLL stations as '* opening summer 2005'.

Hmmm.

The WLL station will be long enough for four-car trains, due to the
constraints of the signalling. I also wonder how much of a constraint
there will be on pathing freights and 377/Xs around the 313s stopping
at the station.

No mention is made of how long the H&CR station will be - seems to me
that making it seven (or eight!) cars instead of six would be useful
if/when the new SSL stock comes on the scene (this is dependent on how
easily Hammersmith station can be modified). Even if the trains will
never be longer, having a platform bigger than your train makes the
T/Op's life much less stressful.

TheOneKEA wrote:
Larry Lard wrote:

http://www.alwaystouchout.com/project/24 and links therefrom. As
I
understand it this is all going to be going live 'Summer 2005'.
Network maps in tube stations already show Imperial Wharf and
Shepherds
Bush WLL stations as '* opening summer 2005'.

Hmmm.

The WLL station will be long enough for four-car trains, due to the
constraints of the signalling. I also wonder how much of a constraint
there will be on pathing freights and 377/Xs around the 313s stopping
at the station.

I think there's definitely 'somwthing being done' to the WLL, as it's
my understanding that when these new stations open the Silverlink WLL
shuttle is having a 50% service increase! (from 2 to 3 trains per
hour).

Mostly stuff I've picked up here, so I'm sure someone definitive will
be along soon...

--
Larry Lard
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In article .com,
TheOneKEA writes
No mention is made of how long the H&CR station will be - seems to me
that making it seven (or eight!) cars instead of six would be useful
if/when the new SSL stock comes on the scene (this is dependent on how
easily Hammersmith station can be modified). Even if the trains will
never be longer, having a platform bigger than your train makes the
T/Op's life much less stressful.

I suppose this is a replacement for White City station, which closed
following a fire in 1959.
--
Tom

In message , thoss
writes

In article .com,
TheOneKEA writes

No mention is made of how long the H&CR station will be - seems to me
that making it seven (or eight!) cars instead of six would be useful
if/when the new SSL stock comes on the scene (this is dependent on how
easily Hammersmith station can be modified). Even if the trains will
never be longer, having a platform bigger than your train makes the
T/Op's life much less stressful.

I suppose this is a replacement for White City station, which closed
following a fire in 1959.

No. The White City station that closed following a fire in 1959 was on
the Central Line. The new station is on the Hammersmith and City - so it
is in no way a replacement.

--
Paul Terry

Paul Terry wrote:
In message , thoss
writes

In article .com,
TheOneKEA writes


No mention is made of how long the H&CR station will be - seems to me
that making it seven (or eight!) cars instead of six would be useful
if/when the new SSL stock comes on the scene (this is dependent on how
easily Hammersmith station can be modified). Even if the trains will
never be longer, having a platform bigger than your train makes the
T/Op's life much less stressful.


I suppose this is a replacement for White City station, which closed
following a fire in 1959.


No. The White City station that closed following a fire in 1959 was on
the Central Line. The new station is on the Hammersmith and City - so it
is in no way a replacement.

Clive believes differently:
http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/hammersmith.html

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

In article , Paul Terry
writes
No. The White City station that closed following a fire in 1959 was on
the Central Line.

And the station on the Central Line in a cutting with two island
platforms, three tracks, and right-hand running is called ...?

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"thoss" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
TheOneKEA writes
No mention is made of how long the H&CR station will be - seems to me
that making it seven (or eight!) cars instead of six would be useful
if/when the new SSL stock comes on the scene (this is dependent on how
easily Hammersmith station can be modified). Even if the trains will
never be longer, having a platform bigger than your train makes the
T/Op's life much less stressful.

I suppose this is a replacement for White City station, which closed
following a fire in 1959.

That's correct, although I don't know about the fire causing closure.

In article , Brimstone
writes

"thoss" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
TheOneKEA writes
No mention is made of how long the H&CR station will be - seems to me
that making it seven (or eight!) cars instead of six would be useful
if/when the new SSL stock comes on the scene (this is dependent on how
easily Hammersmith station can be modified). Even if the trains will
never be longer, having a platform bigger than your train makes the
T/Op's life much less stressful.

I suppose this is a replacement for White City station, which closed
following a fire in 1959.

That's correct, although I don't know about the fire causing closure.

From Edwin Course's "London Railways" (1962):

'The West London and Central Line are crossed over and immediately
beyond Wood Lane [i.e. to the west] is the site of the White City
Station. This was opened in 1908 as Wood Lane (Exhibition) to serve the
White City Exhibition [Wasn't this the Franco-British Exposition, only
acquiring the nickname White City later because of all the glittering
white exhibition buildings?]. It was retained as a normal station until
1914 when, on the opening of a new Shepherd's Bush Station only 300
yards to the south, its use was restricted to special occasions (35) [Is
he suggesting that there were a total of only 35 such occasions?]. In
1947 it was renamed White City; in 1959, being a wooden station, it
suffered badly in a fire and was finally demolished in 1961. The only
memorial to be seen from the line is a variation in the brickwork of the
viaduct parapet.'

Forgive the delay, but I have tried twice before to post this message
and both times it has not appeared. Third time lucky???
--
Thoss