In message , Dave Arquati
writes

We were comparing baked beans to TfL tickets. Annabel rightly pointed
out that Tesco might offer 2 cans of baked beans for 40p when one can
costs 25p. That's not a bad thing - you're saving money!

I've never known them do that (and I don't think that is what Annabel
meant). Baked beans last for years, so the consumer would need only half
the quantity and thus Tesco would lose out.

Much more common is to offer two bags of veg or salad (or two almost
expired pizzas) for a reduced price. People fall for the offer but
cannot consume that much fresh food before it goes off - so they throw
away the out-of-date goods.

They then need to buy the same quantity of goods as before ... so
instead of selling two lots of goods at 25p, Tesco has managed to sell
one at 40p and the other at 25p (if not 40p again!).

Sadly, this is becoming *very* common (especially in Sainsburys, but
also Tesco).

Getting back on topic, rail-fare offers will only make an impact if a
reasonable number of people can benefit from them - if the benefit is
limited to a few people, the benefit to the TOC will similarly be very
limited.

--
Paul Terry

Paul Terry wrote:
In message , Dave Arquati
writes

We were comparing baked beans to TfL tickets. Annabel rightly pointed
out that Tesco might offer 2 cans of baked beans for 40p when one can
costs 25p. That's not a bad thing - you're saving money!


I've never known them do that (and I don't think that is what Annabel
meant). Baked beans last for years, so the consumer would need only half
the quantity and thus Tesco would lose out.

Much more common is to offer two bags of veg or salad (or two almost
expired pizzas) for a reduced price. People fall for the offer but
cannot consume that much fresh food before it goes off - so they throw
away the out-of-date goods.

They then need to buy the same quantity of goods as before ... so
instead of selling two lots of goods at 25p, Tesco has managed to sell
one at 40p and the other at 25p (if not 40p again!).

Sadly, this is becoming *very* common (especially in Sainsburys, but
also Tesco).

Oh dear, I didn't really mean to start a debate about Tesco pricing
policies... I'm pretty sure that Annabel meant that sometimes, two goods
are offered together for a price that is cheaper than their individual
prices combined.

They might not sell two baked beans cans for a discount, but they
certainly *do* sell four cans for a discount - multipacks.

Personally, my purchase of baked beans is related to how many I can
carry back from the supermarket...

Getting back on topic, rail-fare offers will only make an impact if a
reasonable number of people can benefit from them - if the benefit is
limited to a few people, the benefit to the TOC will similarly be very
limited.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:07:05 +0000, Dave Arquati wrote:
Personally, my purchase of baked beans is related to how many I can
carry back from the supermarket...

My dad got strange looks when he bought 200 4-packs from Asda last year.

--
Everything I write here is my personal opinion, and should not be taken as fact.

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 20:09:49 +0000, Paul Terry wrote in
, seen in uk.railway:
In message , Dave Arquati
writes

We were comparing baked beans to TfL tickets. Annabel rightly pointed
out that Tesco might offer 2 cans of baked beans for 40p when one can
costs 25p. That's not a bad thing - you're saving money!

I've never known them do that [...]

There's a BOGOF on Crosse & Blackwell 4-can packs of baked beans (and
other C&B items, for that matter) at Tesco at the moment.


Ob.railway? Err.. Can't think of one. Oh, I know: the sandwich shop
outside Lincoln station (now defunct) had the annoying habit of
putting baked beans, with lots of sauce, on its breakfast rolls, thus
making them very messy eating on the train. The sandwich stall outside
Sleaford station, OTOH, doesn't - and makes an excellent sausage,
bacon & egg roll. Ideal for those mornings when you really need a
decent brekkie - and as she takes phone orders I don't even have to
delay my train whilst it's cooked. ;-)

--
Ross, a.k.a.
Prof. E. Scrooge, CT, 153 & bar, Doctor of Cynicism (U. Life)

Paul Terry wrote:
In message , Dave Arquati writes

We were comparing baked beans to TfL tickets. Annabel rightly pointed
out that Tesco might offer 2 cans of baked beans for 40p when one can
costs 25p. That's not a bad thing - you're saving money!

I've never known them do that (and I don't think that is what Annabel
meant). Baked beans last for years, so the consumer would need only half
the quantity and thus Tesco would lose out.

I expect they come to some arrangement with the manufacturers who are
eager to get a lot of stock shifted.

Much more common is to offer two bags of veg or salad (or two almost
expired pizzas) for a reduced price.

And space on the train can be regarded as the most perishable product
around - once the train has gone, it vanishes completely!

People fall for the offer but cannot consume that much fresh food before
it goes off - so they throw away the out-of-date goods.

Don't they have freezers?

They then need to buy the same quantity of goods as before ... so
instead of selling two lots of goods at 25p, Tesco has managed to sell
one at 40p and the other at 25p (if not 40p again!).

Sadly, this is becoming *very* common (especially in Sainsburys, but
also Tesco).

Safeway used to have a few two for one offers, but always just marked
nearly expired goods down. Has the takover by the BOGOF specialists
changed that?

Linking it to the topic (but not the subject), Next to Bromley South
station there's a Waitrose (which sometimes had BOGOF minced beef) that
looks like its carpark is partly built on either old railway land or
land that the railway's eventually planned to expand into. Which is it?

Getting back on topic, rail-fare offers will only make an impact if a
reasonable number of people can benefit from them - if the benefit is
limited to a few people, the benefit to the TOC will similarly be very
limited.

As will the cost.

"Aidan Stanger" wrote in message
...

Linking it to the topic (but not the subject), Next to Bromley South
station there's a Waitrose (which sometimes had BOGOF minced beef) that
looks like its carpark is partly built on either old railway land or
land that the railway's eventually planned to expand into. Which is it?

I think it was probably a goods yard many years ago, but there's been no
railway use of that land for at least the last 40 years.

Peter

In article , Paul Terry
writes
We were comparing baked beans to TfL tickets. Annabel rightly pointed
out that Tesco might offer 2 cans of baked beans for 40p when one can
costs 25p. That's not a bad thing - you're saving money!
I've never known them do that

I have. Local geography means that we do most of our food shopping at
Tesco.

Much more common is to offer two bags of veg or salad (or two almost
expired pizzas) for a reduced price. People fall for the offer but
cannot consume that much fresh food before it goes off - so they throw
away the out-of-date goods.

Rubbish. It might be a problem for single people - but you don't *have*
to take the 2-for-1.5 offer - but for families you end up saving
significantly.

And plenty of the discounted stuff is nowhere near expiry, or can be
frozen, or is in small units or is otherwise easy to use up long before
it expires.

Now explain 2-for-1 offers, which our Tesco does a lot of. I can even
point at items where N+1 cost *less* than N. How does this fit your
conspiracy theory?

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In message , Clive D. W. Feather
writes

In article , Paul Terry
writes

Much more common is to offer two bags of veg or salad (or two almost
expired pizzas) for a reduced price. People fall for the offer but
cannot consume that much fresh food before it goes off - so they throw
away the out-of-date goods.

Rubbish. It might be a problem for single people

Rubbish. It is not a problem for anyone.

- but you don't *have* to take the 2-for-1.5 offer - but for families
you end up saving significantly.

If you have a family that can consume that much food the same day, it is
obviously a saving. Re-reading the thread would help your comprehension.

And plenty of the discounted stuff is nowhere near expiry, or can be
frozen,

You freeze lettuce, satsumas and cheese (three of today's offers) ?

Now explain 2-for-1 offers, which our Tesco does a lot of.

My neighbour, who is the international buyer for their major rival,
tells me that it is to clear over-purchasing at bargain rates - the
warehouse space then becomes more expensive than selling the goods off
at half price. Today I watched as several argon-impregnated pallet-loads
of salad were moved from warehouse to shelf - all marked to expire
tomorrow.

I can even point at items where N+1 cost *less* than N. How does this
fit your conspiracy theory?

Why on earth do you imagine I have a "conspiracy theory"? I am remarking
on sell-by dates that anyone with eyes can read.

Once you have understood that, try to extrapolate its relevance to
railway tickets.
--
Paul Terry

Paul Terry wrote:

You freeze [...] cheese ?

If it's cheddar-ish, rather than Brie-ish, then yes.

Dave Newt wrote to uk.transport.london on Mon, 14 Feb 2005:

Paul Terry wrote:

You freeze [...] cheese ?

If it's cheddar-ish, rather than Brie-ish, then yes.

The Brie-type freezes very well - I buy Reblochon en masse when in
France & freeze it when I get home - lovely for tartiflettes.....
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