Mrs Redboots wrote:
E. Zackatackali wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 3 Mar 2005:


I think the only other sections of road that seem to have a higher number of
routes than the A23 Brixton-Streatham must be the A215 Walworth Road or
Oxford Street.


Even still, it's pretty squashed trying to travel between the two
centres in the rush hours. I dread what will happen if the CRT ever
becomes reality and another mode of transport empties out at Brixton!

If you're lucky, Croydon Tramlink will head up to Brixton after serving
Thornton Heath Pond and Streatham. It's not that likely though... I hear
that fitting trams down Streatham High Road would be a nightmare,
although I've never been there myself.

Would improved frequencies on overground rail lines or the mooted
extension of the Victoria line to Herne Hill help matters?

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Dave Arquati wrote:
Mrs Redboots wrote:
Even still, it's pretty squashed trying to travel between the two
centres in the rush hours. I dread what will happen if the CRT
ever
becomes reality and another mode of transport empties out at
Brixton!

If you're lucky, Croydon Tramlink will head up to Brixton after
serving
Thornton Heath Pond and Streatham. It's not that likely though... I
hear
that fitting trams down Streatham High Road would be a nightmare,
although I've never been there myself.

Would improved frequencies on overground rail lines or the mooted
extension of the Victoria line to Herne Hill help matters?

Jumping in and answering for Annabel - sending the Vic to Herne Hill
would be fantastic for me (is it really still a possibility?), but the
real problem is that there's no route between Brixton and Streatham
other than by bus, and (as you probably know) Brixton is a significant
'parkway' station for a lot of SE London (and generally the quickest
way from Streatham to the West End). As you may also know, Streatham
has 3 separate NR stations, but they are all served by different lines
with roughly 4tph frequency on each (and no way of travelling between
the 3 by train!) That's why Streatham buses are so overloaded, and
that's why a [light] rail route following the Brixton - Streatham axis
would be a godsend. After all, Brixton's already got the tube, it's the
areas slightly further south that are lacking in decent transport!

Hope that makes sense.

Rupert Candy wrote:
Dave Arquati wrote:

Mrs Redboots wrote:

Even still, it's pretty squashed trying to travel between the two
centres in the rush hours. I dread what will happen if the CRT

ever

becomes reality and another mode of transport empties out at

Brixton!

If you're lucky, Croydon Tramlink will head up to Brixton after

serving

Thornton Heath Pond and Streatham. It's not that likely though... I

hear

that fitting trams down Streatham High Road would be a nightmare,
although I've never been there myself.

Would improved frequencies on overground rail lines or the mooted
extension of the Victoria line to Herne Hill help matters?

Jumping in and answering for Annabel - sending the Vic to Herne Hill
would be fantastic for me (is it really still a possibility?)

I don't think anyone has mentioned it for quite a while, but since it
should enhance line capacity (by putting it on a loop from Brixton SB -
Herne Hill - Brixton NB) it can't be ruled out. No plans from the
infraco though as part of the upgrade so it's not likely soon.

However, if Crossrail 2 were to ever come to fruition, it would free up
enough capacity on the Victoria line to consider extending it further
southwards than Herne Hill.

but the
real problem is that there's no route between Brixton and Streatham
other than by bus, and (as you probably know) Brixton is a significant
'parkway' station for a lot of SE London (and generally the quickest
way from Streatham to the West End). As you may also know, Streatham
has 3 separate NR stations, but they are all served by different lines
with roughly 4tph frequency on each (and no way of travelling between
the 3 by train!) That's why Streatham buses are so overloaded, and
that's why a [light] rail route following the Brixton - Streatham axis
would be a godsend. After all, Brixton's already got the tube, it's the
areas slightly further south that are lacking in decent transport!

Well, hopefully in the future there will be tram routes heading towards
Streatham from both directions, so it can't be a massive step beyond
that to link them up...

PS Have they finished working on Brixton Tube station yet?

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Dave Arquati wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 3 Mar 2005:

PS Have they finished working on Brixton Tube station yet?

Will they ever? They seem to have been working on it fairly solidly for
most of the last 15 years. Every so often they stop and say they're
done for the moment, but the following year they start again!
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 20 February 2005

"Rupert Candy" wrote in message
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Streatham has 3 separate NR stations, but they are all
served by different lines with roughly 4tph frequency on each
(and no way of travelling between the 3 by train!)

Brixton's already got the tube, it's the areas slightly
further south that are lacking in decent transport!

Hope that makes sense.

No! Many parts of London would kill for the rail network Streatham has.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

John Rowland wrote:
"Rupert Candy" wrote in message
oups.com...

Streatham has 3 separate NR stations, but they are all
served by different lines with roughly 4tph frequency on each
(and no way of travelling between the 3 by train!)

Brixton's already got the tube, it's the areas slightly
further south that are lacking in decent transport!

Hope that makes sense.

No! Many parts of London would kill for the rail network Streatham
has.

Really? Which ones? Apart from Hackney, I can't really think of any...

"Rupert Candy" wrote in message
oups.com...
John Rowland wrote:

Many parts of London would kill for the rail network Streatham has.

Really? Which ones? Apart from Hackney, I can't really think of any...

Belmont (Harrow), Belmont (Sutton), Staples Corner, Edmonton, Chingford,
Roehampton, Blackfen, Shooters Hill, Woolwich, the list is too long, in
fact, most places in London belong on the list.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

John Rowland wrote:
"Rupert Candy" wrote in message
oups.com...
John Rowland wrote:

Many parts of London would kill for the rail network Streatham
has.

Really? Which ones? Apart from Hackney, I can't really think of
any...

Belmont (Harrow), Belmont (Sutton), Staples Corner, Edmonton,
Chingford,
Roehampton, Blackfen, Shooters Hill, Woolwich, the list is too long,
in
fact, most places in London belong on the list.

But "most places in London" are on the Tube (though admittedly not many
of the examples you give). I imagine most inhabitants of Streatham
would gladly swap their three stations for an extension of the Victoria
Line...

Rupert Candy wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 9 Mar 2005:

But "most places in London" are on the Tube (though admittedly not many
of the examples you give). I imagine most inhabitants of Streatham
would gladly swap their three stations for an extension of the Victoria
Line...

So would certain inhabitants of Brixton who go to Streatham 5-6 times
per week!
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 4 March 2005 with a new photo

Dave Arquati wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 3 Mar 2005:

Would improved frequencies on overground rail lines or the mooted
extension of the Victoria line to Herne Hill help matters?

What would *really* help is if they could run direct trains between
Brixton and Streatham. The infrastructure is there, but "it's not a
route", so you have to change at Herne Hill.... Sigh....
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 20 February 2005