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Hi guys,
The Easter holidays and weekend are approaching and EOR are not going
to run as normal.
The line will run on Easter Sunday and Monday with an extra 4.00pm
service from Ongar.
One of our guards is a brillant magician, and will be doing magic
tricks on the train for both young and old.
Do come along with your families or yourself, as it will be a great
holiday outing.
There is also now more retail at North weald, and the canteen now named
the Buffer stop fully stocked.
So come on down for a great day out.
Don't miss out
Regards
James

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EorJames wrote to uk.transport.london on Sun, 6 Mar 2005:

Hi guys,
The Easter holidays and weekend are approaching and EOR are not going
to run as normal.
The line will run on Easter Sunday and Monday with an extra 4.00pm
service from Ongar.
One of our guards is a brillant magician, and will be doing magic
tricks on the train for both young and old.
Do come along with your families or yourself, as it will be a great
holiday outing.
There is also now more retail at North weald, and the canteen now named
the Buffer stop fully stocked.
So come on down for a great day out.
Don't miss out
Regards
James

The question is - how does one get to Ongar if one doesn't have a
car????
--
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Website updated 4 March 2005 with a new photo

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In message , Mrs Redboots
writes

The question is - how does one get to Ongar if one doesn't have a
car????

501 bus from Epping on Mons-Sats. On Sundays the EOR runs a vintage bus
that connects with trains.

--
Paul Terry

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snip

Volunteers have implied that the heritage bus (I've seen RTL1256 and
RM1641 - the latter had a 336 NORTH WEALD blind up) may run to connect
with the summertime Saturday workings as well.

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Paul Terry wrote to uk.transport.london on Mon, 7 Mar 2005:

In message , Mrs
Redboots writes

The question is - how does one get to Ongar if one doesn't have a
car????

501 bus from Epping on Mons-Sats. On Sundays the EOR runs a vintage
bus that connects with trains.

Thanks. One of these days, then, I'll make it, although probably not
this Easter.
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Website updated 4 March 2005 with a new photo

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On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 11:45:40 +0000, Mrs Redboots
wrote:

The question is - how does one get to Ongar if one doesn't have a
car????

Bus from Epping. EOR run one service and there's also a "normal" bus
services to Ongar.

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Bus from Epping. EOR run one service and there's also a "normal" bus
services to Ongar.

Can you board the EOR at Nth Weald or Ongar?
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:10:39 +0000, Joe
wrote:

Bus from Epping. EOR run one service and there's also a "normal" bus
services to Ongar.

Can you board the EOR at Nth Weald or Ongar?

I managed both, but I think the service currently favours boarding at
Ongar as it only stops at North Weald in one direction.

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You can board the train at both stations.
The Vintage bus runs all day from epping station.
Heres the Bus timetable.

Epping departure times 11.00 12.00 13.00 14.00 15.00 16.00

North weald arival times 11.15 12.15 13.15 14.15 15.15 16.15

North weald departure times 11.40 12.40 13.40 14.40 15.40 16.40

Epping arrival times 11.55 12.55 13.55 14.55 15.55 16.55
The bus price is included in the ticket.
More retail is avalible at North weald
and soon to have refreshments.
Ongar Has a canteen and bigger retail.
Its a great day out so come down and have a look around
James
Offical website www.eorailway.co.uk
History of the line www.eorhistory.co.nr

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"PRAR" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:10:39 +0000, Joe
wrote:

Can you board the EOR at Nth Weald or Ongar?

I managed both, but I think the service currently favours boarding
at Ongar as it only stops at North Weald in one direction.

It only stops at Ongar in one direction too.

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EorJames wrote:
One of our guards is a brillant magician, and will be doing magic
tricks on the train for both young and old.

Is he there to take peoples minds off the fact that theres very little
worth seeing yet?

B2003

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There is stuff worth seeing.
Theres lots more to come but i wouldnt say the line is boring at the
moment.
Its a nice trip.
Ongar to North weald to coopersale.
Coopersale is lovely as you get into the Epping forest.
Im not a mole for the company im a voulenteer and would like to see
more people down there.
Regards James

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"Boltar" wrote the following in:
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EorJames wrote:
One of our guards is a brillant magician, and will be doing magic
tricks on the train for both young and old.

Is he there to take peoples minds off the fact that theres very
little worth seeing yet?

You have repeatedly made it extremely that you aren't interested in the
Epping to Ongar line. Perhaps you can now stop?

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Robin May wrote:
"Boltar" wrote the following in:
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EorJames wrote:
One of our guards is a brillant magician, and will be doing magic
tricks on the train for both young and old.

Is he there to take peoples minds off the fact that theres very
little worth seeing yet?

You have repeatedly made it extremely that you aren't interested in
the
Epping to Ongar line. Perhaps you can now stop?

Perhaps you can mind your own business.

B2003

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In message , John Rowland
writes
It only stops at Ongar in one direction too.
When I worked on that section of the line there wasn't any option,
unless you fancied taking on the brick wall at the end and on 62 stock I
don't think that would be wise.
--
Clive.

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So when did you work on the line? Boltar the only person i can see you
being is part of ORPS. I like working down there and i soppose i take
EORVS side as i like all the guys there. We need more voulenteers, but
at the moment we are fine.
Regards James.

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In message .com,
EorJames writes
So when did you work on the line?
68 to 70 whilst stationed at Hainault.
--
Clive.

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Wow great email me if you could at and if you
could tell me what it was like working there back then. Any facts and
really any problems.
That would be a helpful addition to my history site.
www.eorhistory.co.nr
and intresting as well.
Hope to hear from you clive
Regards
James.

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Hi i dont know if my other message got through so im re writing it.
Hey Clive that really sounds intresting.
If you could email me at
And tell me what it was like working there back then. Any fact or
problems would be very intresting to hear and a helpful addidtion to my
history site www.eorhistory.co.nr
Hope to hear from you soon Clive
Regards
James.

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Hello looks like ive posted it twice but they wont let my email
through.
Go to my site and my email is on the home page.
Regards
James

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"Boltar" wrote the following in:
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Robin May wrote:
"Boltar" wrote the following in:
oups.com


EorJames wrote:
One of our guards is a brillant magician, and will be doing magic
tricks on the train for both young and old.

Is he there to take peoples minds off the fact that theres very
little worth seeing yet?

You have repeatedly made it extremely that you aren't interested in
the
Epping to Ongar line. Perhaps you can now stop?

Perhaps you can mind your own business.

Wouldn't you agree though that after having posted a message which
boils down to "I don't want to go on the Epping to Ongar railway" to
every single thread about it, you have now made that point and could
just shut up? I don't see why you feel it so necessary to tell everyone
repeatedly that you don't want to go on it and think it's boring. It'd
be like someone with no interest in trains going to uk.railway and
replying to every thread to say "Trains are so boring, why would you
want to talk about them?"

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James Lyons:
Hello looks like ive posted it twice but they wont let my email
[address] through....

Actually, Google Groups censors anything that looks like an email
address when you *read* it, but doesn't stop you from posting them.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "People say I'm a skeptic --
but I find that hard to believe."

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Robin May wrote:
"Boltar" wrote the following in:
ups.com

Perhaps you can mind your own business.

Wouldn't you agree though that after having posted a message which
boils down to "I don't want to go on the Epping to Ongar railway" to
every single thread about it, you have now made that point and could
just shut up? I don't see why you feel it so necessary to tell
everyone
repeatedly that you don't want to go on it and think it's boring.
It'd
be like someone with no interest in trains going to uk.railway and
replying to every thread to say "Trains are so boring, why would you
want to talk about them?"

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"un-killfiled" him!

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On 9 Mar 2005, Adrian Auer-Hudson wrote:

Robin May wrote:
"Boltar" wrote the following in:
ups.com

Perhaps you can mind your own business.

just shut up?

For the longest time I had him "kill-filed". Then I realized this was
the opportunity to observe the mind of a fool at work and "un-killfiled"
him!

I've got him killfiled. I've passed my killfile onto the Russian Mafia,
and am currently waiting for a quote.

:)

tom

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"Adrian Auer-Hudson" wrote in message
ups.com...

For the longest time I had him "kill-filed". Then I
realized this was the opportunity to observe the
mind of a fool at work and "un-killfiled" him!

Doesn't Usenet present enough opportunities without him?

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EorJames wrote:
So when did you work on the line? Boltar the only person i can see
you
being is part of ORPS. I like working down there and i soppose i take

Oh I'm sorry , because I think that the current operation is a bit
hopeless I must be in a rival group? How paranoid is that?

Hmm lets see. All the conductor rail has been ripped up so any chance
of running preserved tube stock (which the line would have been ideal
for) like the cravens train immediately went out the window (and its
not like conductor rails would have precluded diesel or steam operation
too for gods sake, even if the HSE whinged they could still have been
left in place unpowered until an agreement was reached), the current
operational stock is one rather tired DMU (oh very exciting) and theres
some old foreign stock sitting around that A) has bugger all to do with
anything in britain and B) can't even run anyway because its the wrong
gauge! Wtf??

B2003

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So the only comments can be nice ones? What is this , some happy clappy
tree hugging therapy group for the EOR? Do they have special
dispensation that say perhaps the RMT or LU doesn't? You muppet.

B2003

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Boltar wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 10 Mar 2005:

So the only comments can be nice ones? What is this , some happy clappy
tree hugging therapy group for the EOR? Do they have special
dispensation that say perhaps the RMT or LU doesn't? You muppet.

Most newsreaders have an option to mark certain threads "uninteresting"
- why don't you do just that, so you don't have to read, or bother to
comment, on something that doesn't interest you?
--
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http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 4 March 2005 with a new photo

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Boltar wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 10 Mar 2005:


So the only comments can be nice ones? What is this , some happy clappy
tree hugging therapy group for the EOR? Do they have special
dispensation that say perhaps the RMT or LU doesn't? You muppet.

Robin May's post was:
"You have repeatedly made it extremely that you aren't interested in the
Epping to Ongar line. Perhaps you can now stop?"

I thought that the key word was repeatedly.

If you don't like something and want to have a go at it that is fine.
If you keep on saying the same thing, that will almost certainly be a
waste of your time (bandwidth, etc) and that of every one who reads the
post(s).

--

regards

Stephen

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Mrs Redboots wrote:
Boltar wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 10 Mar 2005:

So the only comments can be nice ones? What is this , some happy clappy
tree hugging therapy group for the EOR? Do they have special
dispensation that say perhaps the RMT or LU doesn't? You muppet.

Most newsreaders have an option to mark certain threads "uninteresting"
- why don't you do just that, so you don't have to read, or bother to
comment, on something that doesn't interest you?

On the contrary , I'm very interested in what happens to that particular
stretch of line. I just happen to think that despite the fact that it
was years before any sort of activity started there all they can manage is
the sorry operation they've got at the moment (and I don't think for a moment
that the rival group would have been any better). IMO the ripping up of
the conductor rails was vandalism , pure and simple. The line should have
been put in the hands of people who wanted to run a preserved tube line
since this was probably the one and only chance it could ever have happened.
Instead we've got some 2nd rate toytown setup (and yes I have been to see it).

B2003

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You know what you dont like this go away.
It looks like you come in here to cause trouble.
Muppet? You could of done something better than that.
You dont like the line, then be off with you Boltar.
By the way have you been down there yet and if you have you could tell
me a few things you saw to prove it.
James.

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"Boltar" wrote the following in:
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So the only comments can be nice ones?

No, but it's rather pointless if the comments are mind numbingly
repetitive. "Mind numbingly repetitive" describes perfectly your
comments about the EOR, which as I've already said all amount to little
more than "I think it's boring and don't want to go on it". We
established that long ago, perhaps you could consider only posting
about it when you have something new to add?

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"EorJames" wrote:
You know what you dont like this go away.
It looks like you come in here to cause trouble.
Muppet? You could of done something better than that.
You dont like the line, then be off with you Boltar.

How about you explain why the EOR ripped up the conductor rails
so precluding any heritage tube operation. How about you tell us all
when any stock relevant to the line will run on it. I was under the
impression that heritage lines generally reflected the history of the line
as it was. Can't say I'd noticed it with the EOR. Seems to me you lot can't
decide if you want to be some sort of cut price "real" railway with your
corporate colour scheme being splashed everywhere (never seen a DMU in that
colour before) etc or want to be a heritage line or you just want to be an
adults train set and do what you please to the line regardless of its
history. I genuinely have no idea what you're trying to achieve.

By the way have you been down there yet and if you have you could tell
me a few things you saw to prove it.

I don't have to prove anything to you pal.

B2003

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wrote the following in:


"EorJames" wrote:
You know what you dont like this go away.
It looks like you come in here to cause trouble.
Muppet? You could of done something better than that.
You dont like the line, then be off with you Boltar.

How about you explain why the EOR ripped up the conductor rails
so precluding any heritage tube operation.

I seem to remember reading the answer to that question here already.
It's because HMRI won't let any new railway start up using unprotected
conductor rails like those on the tube. Presumably they consider the
EOR to be a new railway.

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On 12 Mar 2005 21:10:02 GMT, Robin May wrote:

I seem to remember reading the answer to that question here already.
It's because HMRI won't let any new railway start up using unprotected
conductor rails like those on the tube. Presumably they consider the
EOR to be a new railway.

So, how does one "protect" them, then? Are we talking those wooden
planks either side of them?

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Chris Tolley wrote the following in:


On 12 Mar 2005 21:10:02 GMT, Robin May wrote:

I seem to remember reading the answer to that question here
already. It's because HMRI won't let any new railway start up
using unprotected conductor rails like those on the tube.
Presumably they consider the EOR to be a new railway.

So, how does one "protect" them, then? Are we talking those wooden
planks either side of them?

An example of protected conductor rails is the Docklands Light Railway.
It looks like a sort of curtain rail and the current shoe runs
underneath it. I'm not quite sure of the exact mechanics.

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On 14 Mar 2005 00:04:17 GMT, Robin May
wrote:

An example of protected conductor rails is the Docklands Light Railway.
It looks like a sort of curtain rail and the current shoe runs
underneath it. I'm not quite sure of the exact mechanics.

Believe it or not, the design used there is identical to that used in
Hamburg, which has been around for *ages*.

Neil

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Robin May wrote:
wrote the following in:


"EorJames" wrote:
You know what you dont like this go away.
It looks like you come in here to cause trouble.
Muppet? You could of done something better than that.
You dont like the line, then be off with you Boltar.

How about you explain why the EOR ripped up the conductor rails
so precluding any heritage tube operation.

I seem to remember reading the answer to that question here already.
It's because HMRI won't let any new railway start up using
unprotected
conductor rails like those on the tube. Presumably they consider the
EOR to be a new railway.

Seems unlikely to me. If that were the case then the whole of network
southeast would have had to have been de-electrified when network rail
took over from railtrack. Besides , they could have remained unpowered
until an agreement had been reached. I suspect the real reason is that
they made a nice little earner for the EOR down the scrap merchants.

B2003

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Boltar wrote:
Robin May wrote:

Presumably they consider the EOR to be a new railway.

Seems unlikely to me. If that were the case then the whole of network
southeast would have had to have been de-electrified when network rail
took over from railtrack.

No, because service was continuous.

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James Farrar wrote:
Boltar wrote:
Robin May wrote:

Presumably they consider the EOR to be a new railway.

Seems unlikely to me. If that were the case then the whole of
network
southeast would have had to have been de-electrified when network
rail
took over from railtrack.

No, because service was continuous.

What about the Jubilee Line Extension ?
Although this was an extension to an existing railway I'm sure dual
methods of current collection could have been devised if necessary. Or
is the whole of LUL, present and future, exempted from this supposed
HMRI ruling?