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Oyster Pre-Pay Anomaly?

On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:23:27 +0000, Barry Salter
wrote:

Section L of the National Rail Fares Manuals lists the following
sub-standard cash fares:
[snip list of routes]
NB: Fares are ONLY available in the direction shown.

In my experience, these one route there across a Z1/Z2 boundary that
works in the reverse too.

The fare is correctly charged at £2 - in fact £1.70 as I was using
Oyster, but the point stands.

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Oyster Pre-Pay Anomaly?

"Sir Benjamin Nunn" wrote in message
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"Jim" wrote in message
k...

Euston - Mornington Crescent : £2.00

Heh. Has anyone ever actually made this journey?

BTN

I used to all the time when I lived at Mornington Crescent, after getting
off a train at err... Euston.

Silly me!

Quite.

I'd also be interested in hearing about your tube journeys to work when
you lived in Covent Garden and worked in Leicester Square.

Yes, yes. But it doesn't take much imagination to work out that Euston (main
line station.....get the hint??) - Mornington Crescent is often a
reasonable choice. I knew that the net saving in terms of walking distance
was probably only around 500 metres (and the full distance is quite a
schlepp - have you walked it?), but the reduced effort when carrying luggage
was very attractive, believe me! I even suspect that the tube might have
been quicker than walking sometimes, although that was not a concern for me.

Taxi, bus and walking have their various drawbacks too - people just weigh
the pros and cons differently, depending on the situation and what their
preferences are.

xx j

Oyster Pre-Pay Anomaly?

"Jim" wrote in message
k...

I'd also be interested in hearing about your tube journeys to work when
you lived in Covent Garden and worked in Leicester Square.

Yes, yes. But it doesn't take much imagination to work out that Euston
(main line station.....get the hint??) - Mornington Crescent is often a
reasonable choice. I knew that the net saving in terms of walking distance
was probably only around 500 metres (and the full distance is quite a
schlepp - have you walked it?), but the reduced effort when carrying
luggage was very attractive, believe me! I even suspect that the tube
might have been quicker than walking sometimes, although that was not a
concern for me.

Taxi, bus and walking have their various drawbacks too - people just weigh
the pros and cons differently, depending on the situation and what their
preferences are.

Reduced effort? Euston NR to the CX platforms necessitates the descent of
three escalators/stairs and considerable walking. At MC it's stairs and lift
to get back to the surface - I'd rather walk about 1/3 of a mile on a level
surface with my luggage than do that.

Assuming an average waiting time of about 2 mins on the CX branch, I reckon
it would actually be quicker to exit Euston on the Eversholt street and walk
up to MC, than to take the Underground.

When I worked in between MC and Camden Town, I thought nothing of walking to
Euston, and I'm a right fat lazy *******, me.

BTN

Oyster Pre-Pay Anomaly?

"Sir Benjamin Nunn" wrote in message
...

"Jim" wrote in message
k...

I'd also be interested in hearing about your tube journeys to work when
you lived in Covent Garden and worked in Leicester Square.

Yes, yes. But it doesn't take much imagination to work out that Euston
(main line station.....get the hint??) - Mornington Crescent is often a
reasonable choice. I knew that the net saving in terms of walking
distance was probably only around 500 metres (and the full distance is
quite a schlepp - have you walked it?), but the reduced effort when
carrying luggage was very attractive, believe me! I even suspect that the
tube might have been quicker than walking sometimes, although that was
not a concern for me.

Taxi, bus and walking have their various drawbacks too - people just
weigh the pros and cons differently, depending on the situation and what
their preferences are.

Reduced effort? Euston NR to the CX platforms necessitates the descent of
three escalators/stairs and considerable walking. At MC it's stairs and
lift to get back to the surface - I'd rather walk about 1/3 of a mile on a
level surface with my luggage than do that.

OK that's up to you, but do you at least admit that the decision depends on
various factors, for example how heavy the luggage is and whether there are
wheels on it? Whether it's raining? Can you honestly not imagine a situation
where this tube journey might ever be a good idea? Even if you can't, you
have to admit there's not much in it, surely?

I'd rather walk 15 minutes to the tube from my house, but my partner prefers
to walk 5 minutes to the bus stop, 5 minutes waiting and 5 minutes on the
bus - to get to the tube! I have my preference, but I find myself not as
shocked as you are that anyone should have a different preference.

Assuming an average waiting time of about 2 mins on the CX branch, I
reckon it would actually be quicker to exit Euston on the Eversholt street
and walk up to MC, than to take the Underground.

As I said, time was not an issue

When I worked in between MC and Camden Town, I thought nothing of walking
to Euston, and I'm a right fat lazy *******, me.

That's not quite my point - what I'm saying is there may be circumstances
when what seems to you at first sight like an idiotic solution is a
perfectly good idea.

xx j

Oyster Pre-Pay Anomaly?

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:47:10 +0000, Dave Arquati wrote:

I did once meet a couple of Imperial students on the Circle line on
their way from Gloucester Road to High St Ken... having walked from
Imperial to Gloucester Road to catch the Tube because they didn't know
the way to Kensington High St on foot! Some scientists have no common
sense...

It isn't common sense they lacked, but local knowledge. I'd reckon these
people were engineers rather than scientists. they chose a robust
solution to a simple problem.

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Oyster Pre-Pay Anomaly?

"Jim" wrote in message
k...

OK that's up to you, but do you at least admit that the decision depends
on various factors, for example how heavy the luggage is and whether there
are wheels on it? Whether it's raining? Can you honestly not imagine a
situation where this tube journey might ever be a good idea? Even if you
can't, you have to admit there's not much in it, surely?

I agree there's not much in it, which is why I find the idea of someone
paying a £2 fare for the privilege (vs a short, free walk) fairly unlikely.

Obviously it would be a different matter if you already had a travelcard, so
the cost of the journey would effectively be free, but that's straying from
the original point about somebody paying the single fare to make a journey
from Euston to MC.

When I worked in between MC and Camden Town, I thought nothing of walking
to Euston, and I'm a right fat lazy *******, me.

That's not quite my point - what I'm saying is there may be circumstances
when what seems to you at first sight like an idiotic solution is a
perfectly good idea.

Sorry, I can only see very, _very_ exceptional circumstances, in which
paying full fare to go from the surface at Euston to the surface at MC would
be a good idea.

For example, if I needed to go somewhere North of MC, and there was a
violent riot taking place in Eversholt street, I might consider it.

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