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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:40:55 +0000, Chris Tolley
wrote:

Did he *really* say that?

It's relevant on any stock in Europe fitted with door blocking instead
of proper door locking. When the doors release, they do so on both
sides.

When I first saw this on sliding door stock (while twiddling with the
offside door buttons at a station) I was astonished.

Neil

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Chris Tolley wrote:
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:25:59 +0000 (UTC), matt wrote:


Funnily enough, we were talking about this at work the other day.
Someone had suggested making trains longer to reduce overcrowding and
selective door opening to avoid lengthening platforms. When we pointed
out that this was not allowed, and he said - but what about the doors on
the other side of the train - what is to stop them opening accidentally?


Did he *really* say that?

He did. I suppose the point he was trying to make is that "selective
opening" means only opening (or unlocking) a subset of the available
doors, which is what already happens (except with MK1s, and on the DLR
at Canary Wharf etc.)

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matt wrote:
Chris Tolley wrote:
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:25:59 +0000 (UTC), matt wrote:


Funnily enough, we were talking about this at work the other day.
Someone had suggested making trains longer to reduce overcrowding
and
selective door opening to avoid lengthening platforms. When we
pointed
out that this was not allowed, and he said - but what about the
doors on
the other side of the train - what is to stop them opening
accidentally?


Did he *really* say that?

He did. I suppose the point he was trying to make is that "selective
opening" means only opening (or unlocking) a subset of the available
doors, which is what already happens (except with MK1s, and on the
DLR
at Canary Wharf etc.)

It's certainly a fair question - I have seen large signs attached to
platform monitors (IIRC at High Wycombe) which say OPEN DOORS OTHER
SIDE, suggesting that mistakes do happen!

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On 18 Mar 2005 04:12:06 -0800, Rupert Candy wrote:

It's certainly a fair question - I have seen large signs attached to
platform monitors (IIRC at High Wycombe) which say OPEN DOORS OTHER
SIDE, suggesting that mistakes do happen!

me2, but I had always assumed that those were in case of slam-door
stock. You live and learn, eh.
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"Chris Tolley" wrote in message
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On 18 Mar 2005 04:12:06 -0800, Rupert Candy wrote:

It's certainly a fair question - I have seen large signs attached to
platform monitors (IIRC at High Wycombe) which say OPEN DOORS OTHER
SIDE, suggesting that mistakes do happen!

me2, but I had always assumed that those were in case of slam-door
stock. You live and learn, eh.

'Open doors other side' seems to be used on DOO lines where the platform is
on the off side (e.g. for Up trains on the reversible Down platform 2 at
High Wycombe. The signs for passengers of slam door trains were typically
white lettering on a red background, reading 'Alight other side' where there
was something a bit like, but not quite, a platform on the wrong side. One
example was platform 7 (now 6) at London Bridge pre the alterations of the
early 1970s, where the post office 'Mount' platform was on the other side of
the train.

Peter

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Peter Masson wrote:
"Chris Tolley" wrote in message
...
On 18 Mar 2005 04:12:06 -0800, Rupert Candy wrote:

It's certainly a fair question - I have seen large signs attached
to
platform monitors (IIRC at High Wycombe) which say OPEN DOORS
OTHER
SIDE, suggesting that mistakes do happen!

me2, but I had always assumed that those were in case of slam-door
stock. You live and learn, eh.

'Open doors other side' seems to be used on DOO lines where the
platform is
on the off side (e.g. for Up trains on the reversible Down platform 2
at
High Wycombe. The signs for passengers of slam door trains were
typically
white lettering on a red background, reading 'Alight other side'
where there
was something a bit like, but not quite, a platform on the wrong
side. One
example was platform 7 (now 6) at London Bridge pre the alterations
of the
early 1970s, where the post office 'Mount' platform was on the other
side of
the train.

There are some similar signs at Norwood Junction (though I can't
remeber which line it is that has platforms on both sides!). Again,
will presumably be obsolete once slammers are all gone.

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In message , at 21:39:21 on Wed,
16 Mar 2005, John Rowland
remarked:
In particular the new Crossrail
design
does not require use of the Moorgate branch"

Use of the Moorgate branch? I don't know what they mean, unless the former
plan required widening of the Circle Line platform at Barbican.

Perhaps the earlier design used the land upon which the Moorgate Branch
track runs today (and which would be no longer required for running
trains over after TLK2K).
--
Roland Perry