Had a letter today from the Thameslink people telling me they were
reopening the line through London on 16 May.

Will there be anything different to see? I take it the new St Pancras
station won't be open yet, but I want to go to Kentish Town anyway for
another reason, and am wondering if it will be worth postponing my trip
until 16 May, and whether there will be anything different to see if I
do?
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 3 April 2005

Mrs Redboots wrote:
Will there be anything different to see? I take it the new St
Pancras
station won't be open yet,



Correct. However, the box will be there, so you might see that. Aside
from that, there's probably nothing that can't be seen from the Eastern
Interim station or surrounding area.

PhilD

--

In message , Mrs Redboots
writes

Had a letter today from the Thameslink people telling me they were
reopening the line through London on 16 May.

Will there be anything different to see? I take it the new St Pancras
station won't be open yet,

It won't even have been started yet (apart from the actual station box)
- last I heard was that there was still no finance to build an actual
station.

--
Paul Terry

On Fri, 6 May 2005 13:35:07 +0100, Mrs Redboots
wrote:

Had a letter today from the Thameslink people telling me they were
reopening the line through London on 16 May.

Will there be anything different to see? I take it the new St Pancras
station won't be open yet, but I want to go to Kentish Town anyway for
another reason, and am wondering if it will be worth postponing my trip
until 16 May, and whether there will be anything different to see if I
do?

Much more interesting to do the trip before the 16th via St Pancras;
that you can get views of various bits of the CTRL station works (even
more if you take a walk around the edges of the building sites). From
Thameslink the most you are likely to see is a pair of uncompleted
platforms and the opening into the new tunnel, both probably lit only
by the light from the train windows.
--
Peter Lawrence

Peter Lawrence wrote to uk.transport.london on Fri, 6 May 2005:

On Fri, 6 May 2005 13:35:07 +0100, Mrs Redboots
wrote:

Had a letter today from the Thameslink people telling me they were
reopening the line through London on 16 May.

Will there be anything different to see? I take it the new St Pancras
station won't be open yet, but I want to go to Kentish Town anyway for
another reason, and am wondering if it will be worth postponing my trip
until 16 May, and whether there will be anything different to see if I
do?

Much more interesting to do the trip before the 16th via St Pancras;
that you can get views of various bits of the CTRL station works (even
more if you take a walk around the edges of the building sites). From
Thameslink the most you are likely to see is a pair of uncompleted
platforms and the opening into the new tunnel, both probably lit only
by the light from the train windows.

Thanks! In other words, probably not worth it - I might as well use the
Northern Line!
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 3 April 2005

Had a letter today from the Thameslink people telling me they were
reopening the line through London on 16 May.

Will there be anything different to see? I take it the new St
Pancras
station won't be open yet, but I want to go to Kentish Town anyway
for
another reason, and am wondering if it will be worth postponing my
trip
until 16 May, and whether there will be anything different to see if
I
do?
Don't they need to demolish the current thameslink station so that they
can build one of the passageways for the northern ticket hall (phase 2)
for the tube station?

In message . com, at
05:43:48 on Sat, 7 May 2005, lonelytraveller
remarked:
Had a letter today from the Thameslink people telling me they were
reopening the line through London on 16 May.

Will there be anything different to see? I take it the new St
Pancras
station won't be open yet, but I want to go to Kentish Town anyway
for
another reason, and am wondering if it will be worth postponing my
trip
until 16 May, and whether there will be anything different to see if
I
do?
Don't they need to demolish the current thameslink station so that they
can build one of the passageways for the northern ticket hall (phase 2)
for the tube station?

I should think that's very unlikely as the current Thameslink station is
well to the east of all the others in the complex.

--
Roland Perry

I know, but on the big 3d picture of the construction thats on some of
the hoardings at street level, there is a tunnel between the northern
line/northern ticket hall, and the picadilly line, that joins up to the
one that currently goes from thameslink to the picadilly and the
victoria line. It would have to destroy the thameslink entrance/exit
stairs/escalators to do that, so you couldn't get from the thameslink
platforms to the thameslink station.

In them message ...
"Mrs Redboots" wrote:
Peter Lawrence wrote to uk.transport.london on Fri, 6 May 2005:

On Fri, 6 May 2005 13:35:07 +0100, Mrs Redboots
wrote:

Had a letter today from the Thameslink people telling me they were
reopening the line through London on 16 May.

Will there be anything different to see? I take it the new St Pancras
station won't be open yet, but I want to go to Kentish Town anyway for
another reason, and am wondering if it will be worth postponing my trip
until 16 May, and whether there will be anything different to see if I
do?

Much more interesting to do the trip before the 16th via St Pancras;
that you can get views of various bits of the CTRL station works (even
more if you take a walk around the edges of the building sites). From
Thameslink the most you are likely to see is a pair of uncompleted
platforms and the opening into the new tunnel, both probably lit only
by the light from the train windows.

Thanks! In other words, probably not worth it - I might as well use the
Northern Line!

But if you use your imagination on your ride through the Thameslink tunnel,
you can visualise the now-culverted Fleet river flowing over it nearby
(there's a picture of what it once looked like on the railings outside Old
St-Pancras Church nearby) and/or the adjacent ancient graveyard through
which the tunnel was driven...

For more such impressions, see the recently-published paperback edition of
Stephen Smith's Underground London (Abacus) - but anoraks beware, as he says
himself, it's not guaranteed to be absolutely factual.

Regards,

- Alan (in Brussels)

In article .com,
lonelytraveller writes
I know, but on the big 3d picture of the construction thats on some of
the hoardings at street level, there is a tunnel between the northern
line/northern ticket hall, and the picadilly line, that joins up to the
one that currently goes from thameslink to the picadilly and the
victoria line.

Correct.

It would have to destroy the thameslink entrance/exit
stairs/escalators to do that, so you couldn't get from the thameslink
platforms to the thameslink station.

Completely wrong.

In diagrammatic form, heavily distorted:

HHHHH H = new Northern Ticket Hall
HHHHH
:
:
: : = proposed new passageway
:
PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP P = Piccadilly Line platforms
: #
: #
: # # = existing passageway
::###
#
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV V = Victoria Line platforms
#
A--#--A
#
# EEEE E = Thameslink entrance
# EEEE
#### #
# #
TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT T = Thameslink platforms

The diagrams on the hoardings at King's Cross only show the tunnels
above the line A--A.

As you can see, the Thameslink station is unaffected.

In geographic terms, the Piccadilly platforms are under King's Cross
station, the Thameslink ones are south of the Pentonville Road (which
the Northern Line runs under), and the Victoria Line ones are under the
block of buildings with McDonalds at the southwest corner and (IIRC)
Tesco Metro at the northeast.

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