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Default Putney-Vauxhall via Kingston

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James Farrar typed:

Can someone point me at an idiot's guide to when break of journey is
allowed on NR?


Whether you can break your journey or not depends on teh type of ticket you
are using. Generally, the more you pay the more likely it will be that a
break of journey is allowable.

Open Singles and Returns - BoJ allowed
Savers - BoJ generally allowed on return journey only
Standard and Cheap Day Single and Returns - BoJ usually allowed
APEX, Virgin Value and other tickets which specify the train to be used -
BoJ not allowed

Note: getting off a train to make a necessary change to another train is
not a BoJ

On http://www.thetrainline.com (and on other rail planners) you can click on
the 'Ticket Type' in the display to get a pop-up showing ticket conditions,
inluding whether a BoJ is allowed.




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On Wed, 11 May 2005 09:29:50 GMT, "Bob Wood"
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asdf typed:

.... if a Putney-Kingston ticket
(of the same type) is more expensive than your Putney-Vauxhall one,
you *must* return to Kingston station and complete your journey to
Vauxhall on a similar Putney-Kingston-Vauxhall train, else you'll be
breaching the Railway Bye-laws (which forbid you from using a cheaper
ticket to a more distant station to deliberately avoid paying the more
expensive fare to an intermediate station).


There is no such Bye-law.


Fair enough. There used to be but I couldn't find a recent version of
the Bye-laws online.
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Dave Arquati wrote:
Chris! wrote:
Neillw001 wrote:

Chris! wrote:

Several weeks ago I was advised by NRE that one leg of a journey I

was

making should be made from Putney to Vauxhall on a train which

turned

out to be a circular one going from Putney via Kingston, Wimbledon

etc.

to Vauxhall. Obviously this is a bad choice because there are

much
quicker trains going the other way around the circle.

My question is... if NRE say you can go from Putney to Vauxhall on

a

via Kingston, via Wimbledon etc. service does that make it a valid
route and could someone with a zone 1 and 2 travelcard make that
journey but abandon it at, say, Kingston?

Kingston is in Zone 6 so presumably you need a Zone 6 Travelcard to
make it valid. Putney is classed as being in both Zones 2 & 3 as

far

as

I can remember, so any journey beyond there would not be valid on a
Zone 1 & 2 card.

Neill


Ok, so what about with a single ticket from Putney to Vauxhall?

I think you're allowed to use a ticket on any direct train between

your
origin and destination, regardless of the route it takes - but you
probably wouldn't be able to get off at Kingston or any intermediate

point.

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Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London


Can someone define direct train for me? On the national rail dept.
boards the trains appear as Waterloo to Waterloo (circular service) BUT
at the staions en route the destinations change (e.g. strawberry hill
on display @ waterloo then kingston on display after clapham junction
then etc.


From the Conditions of Carriage:
For the purposes of this Condition, a Through Train is one which may be used
by a passenger to make his/her entire journey.

So as you can make the whole of your journey from Putney to Vauxhall on one
train it is valid. What is displayed on the departure boards is irrelevant.

Peter Smyth






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