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Default Routes K9/K10: Kingston to Epsom

Can anyone confirm whether or not all zone London bus passes are valid
beyond Worcester Park through to Epsom on routes K9 & K10? Other routes
such as 418 & 467 are, but no mention is made on the publication "Beyond
The Fringes" of the K9 & K10.

Thanks,

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London, N4

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"Phil Richards" wrote in message
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Can anyone confirm whether or not all zone London bus passes are valid
beyond Worcester Park through to Epsom on routes K9 & K10? Other routes
such as 418 & 467 are, but no mention is made on the publication "Beyond
The Fringes" of the K9 & K10.

Thanks,

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Phil Richards
London, N4


If you look at the official TFL bus map for SW London:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/buses/pdfdocs/s_west.pdf
(NB: 4.4MB!)

it shows that those routes turn from a grey line to a green line as they
cross the Greater London boundary (ooposite Worcester Park station on the K9
and in St. Clair Drive on the K10). This means that TFL tickets and passes
are not valid on these routes south of the boundary.

You are right however that the 406, 418, 467 & 166 do accept TFL tickets &
passes across the boundary through to Epsom.

Colin


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"Phil Richards" wrote in message
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Can anyone confirm whether or not all zone London bus passes are valid
beyond Worcester Park through to Epsom on routes K9 & K10? Other routes
such as 418 & 467 are, but no mention is made on the publication "Beyond
The Fringes" of the K9 & K10.

Thanks,

--
Phil Richards
London, N4


If you look at the official TFL bus map for SW London:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/buses/pdfdocs/s_west.pdf
(NB: 4.4MB!)

it shows that those routes turn from a grey line to a green line as they
cross the Greater London boundary (ooposite Worcester Park station on the

K9
and in St. Clair Drive on the K10). This means that TFL tickets and passes
are not valid on these routes south of the boundary.

You are right however that the 406, 418, 467 & 166 do accept TFL tickets &
passes across the boundary through to Epsom.

Colin

K9 & K10 are still commercial routes run by Epsom Buses/Quality Line the
others are TfL tendered/heavily subsidised services so they have end to end
ticket availability whilst the K9/K10 don't

Paul


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Default Routes K9/K10: Kingston to Epsom

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Can anyone confirm whether or not all zone London bus passes are valid
beyond Worcester Park through to Epsom on routes K9 & K10? Other routes
such as 418 & 467 are, but no mention is made on the publication "Beyond
The Fringes" of the K9 & K10.

Thanks,

--
Phil Richards
London, N4


K9 and K10 do only accept London passes as far as Worcester park, and the
services terminate on saturdays at Worcester Park instead of Kingston.
As mentionned already, 406, 418, and 467 do accept the passes throughout the
route, as does the new 470 (Epsom - Colliers Wood), and revised 293 (Epsom -
Morden) (both operated by Quality Line) since the introduction of new
timetable on 19th June.

Phil Kitchen


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Default Routes K9/K10: Kingston to Epsom

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 23:10:13 +0100 Phil Richards
said...

Can anyone confirm whether or not all zone London bus passes are valid
beyond Worcester Park through to Epsom on routes K9 & K10? Other routes
such as 418 & 467 are, but no mention is made on the publication "Beyond
The Fringes" of the K9 & K10.


Thanks for everyone's feedback. Covered both routes today, K9 to Epsom,
K10 back. Was slightly astonished at the fare beyond the Travelcard
boundary - 2.10 (to which even the driver remarked "Terrible, isn't
it?") and 1.70.

In and around Epsom I was surprised to see two different styles bus
stops, some the standard London ones, others with the single deck bus
symbol often seen in the "provinces". Confusion at one stop where the K9
& 418 stopped, two locals boarded the K9 to be told it's 1.70 in to
Epsom town centre. the driver advising only 70p if you wait for the 418!

A general remark in so far that it seemed odd leaving effectively what is
Greater London at Worcester Park and yet you remain in a built up area
without going through any green belt. Any idea the historic reason behind
this?


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Phil Richards
London, N4


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Default Routes K9/K10: Kingston to Epsom


K9 and K10 do only accept London passes as far as Worcester park, and the
services terminate on saturdays at Worcester Park instead of Kingston.
As mentionned already, 406, 418, and 467 do accept the passes throughout

the
route, as does the new 470 (Epsom - Colliers Wood), and revised 293

(Epsom -
Morden) (both operated by Quality Line) since the introduction of new
timetable on 19th June.

Phil Kitchen


Actually, the 293 is operated by Epsom Buses - "Quality Line" is a trading
name only.

Matt Forbes (yes - that one)




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