"JohnB" wrote in message
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Adrian wrote:

Eh? You spent FIVE AND A HALF GRAND ON A BICYCLE?

Nope.

Oh, John, you bad man!

Adrian -

First up, you should probably read things a bit more carefully.

Second - what's wrong with spending 5K or so on a bike? Plenty of people
throw that much away in depreciation alone in the first year on their car,
and I don't see you shouting at them.

FWIW my rule is that no bike can cost less than the car. I'm just about
obeying that one now - good thing cars are so cheap these days.

cheers,
clive

Clive George ) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

Second - what's wrong with spending 5K or so on a bike?

FWIW my rule is that no bike can cost less than the car.

I've never spent five grand on a car.
I've only once spent more than HALF that on a car.

Adrian wrote:
Clive George ) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :


Second - what's wrong with spending 5K or so on a bike?


FWIW my rule is that no bike can cost less than the car.


I've never spent five grand on a car.
I've only once spent more than HALF that on a car.

You are not average in this regard amongst car drivers ....

chris harrison ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

Second - what's wrong with spending 5K or so on a bike?

FWIW my rule is that no bike can cost less than the car.

I've never spent five grand on a car.
I've only once spent more than HALF that on a car.

You are not average in this regard amongst car drivers ....

And five grand is an average bicycle?

Adrian wrote:
chris harrison ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :


Second - what's wrong with spending 5K or so on a bike?

FWIW my rule is that no bike can cost less than the car.


I've never spent five grand on a car.
I've only once spent more than HALF that on a car.


You are not average in this regard amongst car drivers ....


And five grand is an average bicycle?

Also not average, but not unimaginable.

It goes a lot further than that same 5 grand spent on a car, not even
beginning to count ongoing running costs.

chris harrison ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

I've never spent five grand on a car.
I've only once spent more than HALF that on a car.

You are not average in this regard amongst car drivers ....

And five grand is an average bicycle?

Also not average, but not unimaginable.

So where did "average" come into it? Although I'd suspect that it's *FAR*
more common to buy inexpensive cars than expensive bikes...

It goes a lot further than that same 5 grand spent on a car

How? Seriously - genuine question. I'm *baffled* about what a £5k bike will
do that a £500 one won't.

Adrian wrote:
chris harrison ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :
Also not average, but not unimaginable.


So where did "average" come into it? Although I'd suspect that it's *FAR*
more common to buy inexpensive cars than expensive bikes...

Not if I look at the cars on the roads I walk past in the morning. I
would put money on an overwhelming majority of them costing their owners
more than 5 grand when bought - and a goodly proportion of them still
worth more than that.

FWIW, I introduced the word 'average' several posts ago. You were making
out that you would not have done something - that is only relevant if
you are proposing yourself as the typical man in the street? Otherwise
why should you go on to question why spending the same sum on a bike
should be a cause of surprise?

It goes a lot further than that same 5 grand spent on a car


How? Seriously - genuine question. I'm *baffled* about what a £5k bike will
do that a £500 one won't.

As the old saying goes, if you have to ask the question, you won't
understand the answer.

But it is very similar to asking what a 50 grand car will get you that a
5 grand one won't.

You get better technology, better materials, higher quality components,
better performance.

In message . 170,
Adrian writes
chris harrison ) gurgled happily, sounding much like

So where did "average" come into it? Although I'd suspect that it's *FAR*
more common to buy inexpensive cars than expensive bikes...

It goes a lot further than that same 5 grand spent on a car

How? Seriously - genuine question. I'm *baffled* about what a £5k bike will
do that a £500 one won't.

Make a statement to the world about the wealth, taste and trouser
endowment of the man who owns it?

I'm guessing the majority of people who spend 5k on a bike are men.

--
Steve Walker

"Adrian" wrote in message
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So where did "average" come into it? Although I'd suspect that it's *FAR*
more common to buy inexpensive cars than expensive bikes...

There are a hell of a lot of cheap crap bikes bought - you just don't see
the owner's talking about them.

It goes a lot further than that same 5 grand spent on a car

How? Seriously - genuine question. I'm *baffled* about what a £5k bike
will
do that a £500 one won't.

Ok, what will a 300k car do which a 30k one won't? There's an awful lot of
your answer.

Most of the answer is almost always 'go faster' - applies to both cars and
bikes. Another of the key subsets is 'being more comfortable' - oh look,
cars and bikes again. 'Easy to ride' is another one (ok, cars suffer this to
less of a degree since autoboxes etc are very cheap). 'Carry more people' is
another - cars get this one too.

Key differences include materials (CF costs a lot more than gaspipe!),
design and volume of manufacture (recumbents tend to be more expensive,
recumbent trikes more so).

My speciality is tandems - I know of bikes which cost 5K. What they will do
which your 500 quid one won't is : Carry two people. Be portable within
airline luggage restrictions (the former makes this one quite hard and
expensive). Be light enough to lift (ever crossed scottish deer fences?
having something which doesn't weigh a ton is a significant advantage). Have
better gears and brakes (a rohloff hub costs as much as your 500 quid bike
alone - but it will be strong and reliable in the way that a derailleur
system never will be).

Recumbents have similar games. Recumbent tandems even more so.

Will that do?

cheers,
clive

"Adrian" wrote in message
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chris harrison ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

I've never spent five grand on a car.
I've only once spent more than HALF that on a car.

You are not average in this regard amongst car drivers ....

And five grand is an average bicycle?

Also not average, but not unimaginable.

So where did "average" come into it? Although I'd suspect that it's *FAR*
more common to buy inexpensive cars than expensive bikes...

It goes a lot further than that same 5 grand spent on a car

How? Seriously - genuine question. I'm *baffled* about what a £5k bike
will
do that a £500 one won't.

It will use more expensive rarer metals and carbon fibres etc., burning much
more resources to build. It will still have the same wheezy **** powering it
though.