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Dave Arquati · July 17th 03, 02:25 PM posted to uk.transport.london

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 19:42:41 +0100, John wrote:

In article , Paul Corfield
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On 14 Jul 2003 14:15:59 -0700, (nmtop40) wrote:

[crossrail]

It's a connecting line around London we need, not more lines going
through the middle of it.

I agree with the orbital line idea in addition to Crossrail and I think
it could be done relatively cheaply if people employed some imagination
as to the execution of the concept.

People in favour of crossrail often quote people wanting to travel from
the GE lines to Paddington - but how many want to? Surely lots want to
travel from GE to Waterloo/Victoria - I do quite often, and others want
to go to go from Marylebone to London Bridge.

(snip)

I commute to Kings Cross from the GE - it would probably ease my travel
a bit, but I am not convinced by the plan - given the number of people
or orbit the M25 I can see advantages in an orbital line linking key
interchanges.

so in future you get one direct train to Farringdon and then Thameslink
or a Tube one stop. Sounds fine and dandy to me (assuming it all works,
of course).

I'd like to see Thameslink 2050 (!) built, Crossrail 1 then something
doing KX- Victoria (Crossrail 2) and then Waterloo / Vauxhall - Euston
preferably linking into Holborn / Aldwych. The only really difficult
option would be whether we could create a London version of Chatelet Les
Halles (Paris) with (nearly) all the lines linked or whether you'd have
a couple of big Central London interchange stations.

The problem already with that is that Crossrail 2 is currently proposed to
run Victoria - TCR - KX... so you already have three interchange stations
(KX, Farringdon, TCR) in a triangle for TL2K/XR1/XR2. Crossrail 2 could be
changed at this early stage but it wouldn't be sensible to run it via
Farringdon just for ease of use. I'm not sure of my Paris geography - does
it have several main centres like London's West End, City & Canary Wharf -
or just one main one at Chatelet?

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Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7

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