"Mrs Redboots" wrote in message
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Ian F. wrote to uk.transport.london on Fri, 1 Jul 2005:

Moreover, would you, a 55-year-old man, *really* remain seated while a
mother with a young child in her arms was standing?????

I would offer but it would be wrong of her to expect it as a divine right.
He may have been unsteady on his legs or had all manner of reasons for not
standing up.

I remember when I was in my teens travelling on a train with some friends. A
woman who was carrying a suitcase and who had two children with her burst
into my compartment (trains still had compartments then!) and glared angrily
at us. Immediately she had come in, one of us had stood up to offer to put
her suitcase on the rack for her, since she had the children to look after.
He'd hardly finished standing up when she laid into us: "Isn't any one of
you miserable specimens enough of a gentlemen to offer to help a lady with
her suitcase?" Said my friend, sitting down again, "Well I *was* just about
to offer, but if that's your attitude and you're going to *demand* it then I
don't think I'll bother." That shut her up!

If anyone ever holds a door open for me or gives up their seat for me (eg
moving their bags that they've got next to them) I always make a point of
saying "Thanks ever so much. Much appreciated" even if I've been hoping that
they will do so - politeness costs nothing. All too often I've found that
women don't thank me if I hold a door open for them, whereas men almost
invariably do. It seems so obvious to me that the first person through a
door should hold it open for the person (man or woman) just behind them that
I don't know why some women feel offended by it.

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 16:43:04 +0100, Martin Underwood wrote:

He may have been unsteady on his legs or had all manner of reasons for not
standing up.

You've met Ian before then?

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"loobyloo" wrote in message
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You've met Ian before then?

Heh! Actually, to be honest, on the day in question my gout-y right foot was
playing up a bit. None of us are getting any younger and at almost 55, I'm
beginning to get aches in places where I didn't even know I had places.

Ian

Ian F. wrote:
"loobyloo" wrote in message
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You've met Ian before then?

Heh! Actually, to be honest, on the day in question my gout-y right foot was
playing up a bit. None of us are getting any younger and at almost 55, I'm
beginning to get aches in places where I didn't even know I had places.


That'll teach you to pass the port to the left...
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Kat

"Kat" wrote in message
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That'll teach you to pass the port to the left...

I refer the Honourable Member for 'Ackney East to the following:

"Pass the port ... it won't give you gout

James Meikle
Friday April 16, 2004
The Guardian

"Researchers have cheering news for grumpy old port drinkers. Beer drinkers
are far more likely to develop gout than those who quaff wine."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/st...192990,00.html

;-)

Ian

Ian F. wrote:
I refer the Honourable Member for 'Ackney East to the following:

"Pass the port ... it won't give you gout

James Meikle
Friday April 16, 2004
The Guardian

"Researchers have cheering news for grumpy old port drinkers. Beer drinkers
are far more likely to develop gout than those who quaff wine."

Indeed.. But the grumpy old port drinker in his plus-fours with his
bandaged foot and shooting stick is an enduring image of the English
upper class,
Doncha know, what?
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Kat