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First, and foremost, my thoughts are with those in London who are reeling
from the terrorist attack today 7-7. It is truly a tragedy and I'm sorry any
human being has to go through that sort of ordeal. The only solace is that
it could have been much, much worse. Those that have perpetrated this
heinous crime are not humans and do not deserve to live. Show no more mercy
to them than you would a cockroach. They are barbarians, the lot.

I have a trip scheduled for me and some friends for my birthday party later
this month and I'm still coming. I ain't scared of some cowardly sack of
crap that thinks this is going to beat anyone into submission. If your fear
gets the better of you, the *******s have won.

I absolutely am going on this trip. I will not let some terrorist hiding
under the cover of darkness change my mind. I will not cow to the will of
some scum-sucking, bottom-dwelling sack of crap. They will not win and I
will not let them win. I will ride the tube and the bus. I will be cautious,
but I will NOT be afraid.

I also feel London will be very safe now. Their plan so far seems to hit a
major city, wait a year, and find a new city to lay waste to: New York,
Madrid, now London: in other words, keep everyone unbalanced. It's very
impressive blowing up a bunch of innocent people to try and prove a point.
It only makes civilised people not have any sympathy for your cause.

-- Eric, Proud American; and Bush Hater (thankyouverydamnmuch)

--
Consumerism in Britain: "British salespeople are very attached to
merchandise and try hard to keep it in the store" -Jane Walmsley

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"CMOT TMPV" wrote in message ...
First, and foremost, my thoughts are with those in London who are reeling
from the terrorist attack today 7-7. It is truly a tragedy and I'm sorry any
human being has to go through that sort of ordeal. The only solace is that
it could have been much, much worse. Those that have perpetrated this
heinous crime are not humans and do not deserve to live. Show no more mercy
to them than you would a cockroach. They are barbarians, the lot.

I have a trip scheduled for me and some friends for my birthday party later
this month and I'm still coming. I ain't scared of some cowardly sack of
crap that thinks this is going to beat anyone into submission. If your fear
gets the better of you, the *******s have won.

I absolutely am going on this trip. I will not let some terrorist hiding
under the cover of darkness change my mind. I will not cow to the will of
some scum-sucking, bottom-dwelling sack of crap. They will not win and I
will not let them win. I will ride the tube and the bus. I will be cautious,
but I will NOT be afraid.

I also feel London will be very safe now. Their plan so far seems to hit a
major city, wait a year, and find a new city to lay waste to: New York,
Madrid, now London: in other words, keep everyone unbalanced. It's very
impressive blowing up a bunch of innocent people to try and prove a point.
It only makes civilised people not have any sympathy for your cause.

-- Eric, Proud American; and Bush Hater (thankyouverydamnmuch)

--
Consumerism in Britain: "British salespeople are very attached to
merchandise and try hard to keep it in the store" -Jane Walmsley



Here here. Pretty much sums up how Londoners feel too.

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"nick" wrote in message
...
.. Here here. Pretty much sums up how Londoners feel too.
..
Except for those PC idiots in White City:

BBC Radio 5 went straight round to an East End mosque to interview
'community leaders' even before the victims were cold.

They are an absolute disgrace.

Mick.

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i agree with mick tully these people are vultures. if i had gone round to a
mosque it would have been with different motive. my kids are in london, i
would have been carrying a uzi. **** the press they are as bad for giving
them a platform.
"Mick Tully" wrote in message
...

"nick" wrote in message
...
. Here here. Pretty much sums up how Londoners feel too.
.
Except for those PC idiots in White City:

BBC Radio 5 went straight round to an East End mosque to interview
'community leaders' even before the victims were cold.

They are an absolute disgrace.

Mick.

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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, CMOT TMPV wrote:

Their plan so far seems to hit a major city, wait a year, and find a new
city to lay waste to: New York, Madrid, now London

In a way, there's quite a cachet to being a terrorist target. It means a
city must have international standing. I bet the French are hopping mad
that the terrorists thought London was a more important target than Paris!

tom

--
Baby got a masterplan. A foolproof masterplan.

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Mick Tully wrote:
"nick" wrote in message
...
. Here here. Pretty much sums up how Londoners feel too.
.
Except for those PC idiots in White City:

BBC Radio 5 went straight round to an East End mosque to interview
'community leaders' even before the victims were cold.

They are an absolute disgrace.


Near Aldgate East there is a significant community of Muslim Londoners,
some of whom may well have been victims of the bombs together with many
of other religions.

Like all other Londoners interviewed yesterday morning the East End
muslim community leaders condemned this attack.

It is foolish to associate moderates and extemists of the same
religion. They have little in common. I think you are a disgrace to
London if you will not stand together against terrorism with your
nieghbours of all religions or those, like me, who have no religion.

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CMOT TMPV wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 7 Jul 2005:

I have a trip scheduled for me and some friends for my birthday party later
this month and I'm still coming. I ain't scared of some cowardly sack of
crap that thinks this is going to beat anyone into submission. If your fear
gets the better of you, the *******s have won.

Quite right too! We will be happy to welcome you.

We (my old man and I) were in NYC as scheduled a couple of weeks after
9/11. You can't let terrorists disrupt your life more than you have to,
or they'll have won.
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 23 May 2005

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Tom Anderson wrote to uk.transport.london on Fri, 8 Jul 2005:

On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, CMOT TMPV wrote:

Their plan so far seems to hit a major city, wait a year, and find a
new city to lay waste to: New York, Madrid, now London

In a way, there's quite a cachet to being a terrorist target. It means a
city must have international standing. I bet the French are hopping mad
that the terrorists thought London was a more important target than
Paris!

Yes, two snubs in two days..... my husband (before the scale of the
attacks was known) even speculated that it was they who were behind
them, in retaliation for not having been given the Olympics!
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 23 May 2005

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"umpston" wrote in message
oups.com...
Mick Tully wrote:
"nick" wrote in message
...
. Here here. Pretty much sums up how Londoners feel too.
.
Except for those PC idiots in White City:

BBC Radio 5 went straight round to an East End mosque to interview
'community leaders' even before the victims were cold.

They are an absolute disgrace.


Near Aldgate East there is a significant community of Muslim Londoners,
some of whom may well have been victims of the bombs together with many
of other religions.

Like all other Londoners interviewed yesterday morning the East End
muslim community leaders condemned this attack.

It is foolish to associate moderates and extemists of the same
religion. They have little in common. I think you are a disgrace to
London if you will not stand together against terrorism with your
nieghbours of all religions or those, like me, who have no religion.

There's a time and a place for the gathering of opinions of those whose
religion has been used as the excuse for mass murder. Four hours after the
slaughter, in an east London mosque is neither. Imagine the feelings of the
mother, father, wife or child who had a loved one ripped-apart in the name
of Islam, having its "community leaders" sought-out by politically correct
BBC journalists to comment at the height their suffering?

This has nothing whatsoever to do with moderates or extremists. Just about
sensitivity and respect for the victims and their distraught families on the
part of the BBC.

Mick.

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Mick Tully wrote:
"umpston" wrote in message
oups.com...
Mick Tully wrote:
"nick" wrote in message
...
. Here here. Pretty much sums up how Londoners feel too.
.
Except for those PC idiots in White City:

BBC Radio 5 went straight round to an East End mosque to interview
'community leaders' even before the victims were cold.

They are an absolute disgrace.


Near Aldgate East there is a significant community of Muslim Londoners,
some of whom may well have been victims of the bombs together with many
of other religions.

Like all other Londoners interviewed yesterday morning the East End
muslim community leaders condemned this attack.

It is foolish to associate moderates and extemists of the same
religion. They have little in common. I think you are a disgrace to
London if you will not stand together against terrorism with your
nieghbours of all religions or those, like me, who have no religion.

There's a time and a place for the gathering of opinions of those whose
religion has been used as the excuse for mass murder. Four hours after the
slaughter, in an east London mosque is neither. Imagine the feelings of the
mother, father, wife or child who had a loved one ripped-apart in the name
of Islam, having its "community leaders" sought-out by politically correct
BBC journalists to comment at the height their suffering?

This has nothing whatsoever to do with moderates or extremists. Just about
sensitivity and respect for the victims and their distraught families on the
part of the BBC.


If violence was done in your own name, without your agreemant, would
you not expect a chance to repudiate it? Or would you be happy to
take the blame?

You seem to be implying that all muslims are somehow responsible for
the actions of these extremists. That is absurd. I do not know what
your beliefs are but I am sure you would find things have been done, in
the name of your own beliefs, that you would not wish to be personally
associated with.

As a fellow atheist - would you hold me responsible for the evils
committed by Stalin?

If I was a victim I would not expect ANYONE to take the blame or share
responsibility - except those evil individuals who committed the crime
and anyone who expresses support for them or their methods. No-one who
condemns them and their methods should be censored merely because of
their religion.

Screw The Terrorists....
 

"umpston" wrote in message
oups.com...
Mick Tully wrote:
"umpston" wrote in message
oups.com...
Mick Tully wrote:
"nick" wrote in message
...
. Here here. Pretty much sums up how Londoners feel too.
.
Except for those PC idiots in White City:

BBC Radio 5 went straight round to an East End mosque to interview
'community leaders' even before the victims were cold.

They are an absolute disgrace.


Near Aldgate East there is a significant community of Muslim
Londoners,
some of whom may well have been victims of the bombs together with
many
of other religions.

Like all other Londoners interviewed yesterday morning the East End
muslim community leaders condemned this attack.

It is foolish to associate moderates and extemists of the same
religion. They have little in common. I think you are a disgrace to
London if you will not stand together against terrorism with your
nieghbours of all religions or those, like me, who have no religion.

There's a time and a place for the gathering of opinions of those whose
religion has been used as the excuse for mass murder. Four hours after
the
slaughter, in an east London mosque is neither. Imagine the feelings of
the
mother, father, wife or child who had a loved one ripped-apart in the
name
of Islam, having its "community leaders" sought-out by politically
correct
BBC journalists to comment at the height their suffering?

This has nothing whatsoever to do with moderates or extremists. Just
about
sensitivity and respect for the victims and their distraught families on
the
part of the BBC.


If violence was done in your own name, without your agreemant, would
you not expect a chance to repudiate it? Or would you be happy to
take the blame?

You seem to be implying that all muslims are somehow responsible for
the actions of these extremists. That is absurd. I do not know what
your beliefs are but I am sure you would find things have been done, in
the name of your own beliefs, that you would not wish to be personally
associated with.

As a fellow atheist - would you hold me responsible for the evils
committed by Stalin?

If I was a victim I would not expect ANYONE to take the blame or share
responsibility - except those evil individuals who committed the crime
and anyone who expresses support for them or their methods. No-one who
condemns them and their methods should be censored merely because of
their religion.


I keep hearing the word "Muslim" connected with this, but never the word
"Iraq", the occupation of which is surely more apposite to the motivation of
the bombers.

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"Des" wrote in message
news:dan7o0 I keep hearing the word "Muslim" connected with this, but never
the word
"Iraq", the occupation of which is surely more apposite to the motivation
of
the bombers.


It's easy to forget now, but the horrific dawn of Islamic terrorism (7/11)
predated both Afganistan and Iraq.

Mick.

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"umpston" wrote in message
oups.com...
Mick Tully wrote:
You seem to be implying that all muslims are somehow responsible for
the actions of these extremists.

I beg your pardon. I never said any such thing.

Quote what I actually wrote, not ridiculous implications you mischievously
subscribe to it.

Mick.

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Mick Tully wrote:
"umpston" wrote in message
oups.com...
Mick Tully wrote:
You seem to be implying that all muslims are somehow responsible for
the actions of these extremists.

I beg your pardon. I never said any such thing.

Quote what I actually wrote, not ridiculous implications you mischievously
subscribe to it.

Mick.

Then Mick, I beg your pardon in return. No mischief or malice intended
- I just think you're wrong.

Quoting you:
" Except for those PC idiots in White City:
BBC Radio 5 went straight round to an East End mosque to interview
'community leaders' even before the victims were cold.
They are an absolute disgrace."

BBC Radio 5 interviewed many Londoners of all religions on Thursday,
including those at the mosque near the Aldgate East bombing. No-one I
heard sympathised with the bombers or their methods, regardless of
their other views on religion or the political implications of what has
happened.

I think it is vitally important that muslim leaders who condemn this
violence should be heard at the moment. Otherwise people might easily
make the same mistake about them as I did about you - and assume they
believe things they have not said.

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"Mick Tully" wrote in message ...

"Des" wrote in message news:dan7o0 I keep hearing the word "Muslim"
connected with this, but never the word
"Iraq", the occupation of which is surely more apposite to the motivation of
the bombers.


It's easy to forget now, but the horrific dawn of Islamic terrorism (7/11) predated both Afganistan and Iraq.

Mick.


9/11, no youll find we were bombing Iraq before 9/11. (almost daily since the gulf war 91)

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Mick Tully wrote:
"umpston" wrote in message
ups.com...
.
I think it is vitally important that muslim leaders who condemn this
violence should be heard at the moment. Otherwise people might easily
make the same mistake about them as I did about you - and assume they
believe things they have not said.


My whole point was about the usual BBC PC getting in the way of respect for
the grieving loved ones.

I posted this to.uk.media.radio.bbc-r5 this Tuesday:

"...whatever happened to the famously publicised BBC sense of
'journalistic balance'? As soon as the Iraq war, or whatever, crops-up the
Beeb's 'journos' make a beeline for the nearest mosque"

Tragically, my prediction came to pass far more quickly than anyone could
have predicted.


What I don't understand about your argument is how broadcasting an
interview with a religious leader, or any other Londoner, who condemns
the violence which has taken place can be construed as a lack of
respect for the victims.

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"umpston" wrote in message
oups.com...
Mick Tully wrote:
..

I posted this to.uk.media.radio.bbc-r5 this Tuesday:

"...whatever happened to the famously publicised BBC sense of
'journalistic balance'? As soon as the Iraq war, or whatever, crops-up
the
Beeb's 'journos' make a beeline for the nearest mosque"

Tragically, my prediction came to pass far more quickly than anyone could
have predicted.


What I don't understand about your argument is how broadcasting an
interview with a religious leader, or any other Londoner, who condemns
the violence which has taken place can be construed as a lack of
respect for the victims.

That wasn't my point at all. It was the sheer predictability (I trust you
checked-up on my horribly prescient message to uk.media.radio.bbc-r5 on
Tuesday) of the Beeb's inane and politically correct reaction to any act of
Islamic terrorism.

Lazy and ****ing insensitive journalism.

The fact that the victims were still warm from a murderous Islamic attack,
surprised and sickened even this curmudgeonly old cynic.

I'm quite sure the majority of London's muslims would also condemn
Thursday's atrocities, but I'm sur you have heard many Asianethnic callers
to locsl and national radio stations say that the Americans deserved 9\11.